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Comparing amdgpu+radeonsi to nouveau isn't really fair. Nouveau can't use proper reclocking most of the time because Nvidia are being jerks.



Nvidia can play the game however they want. But they were not pushed into that situation. Their choice, they get to own it. I think it’s a fair comparison.


Nvidia isn't involved in nouveau, it's developed completely by the community. Since it can't use hardware in full, there is no point to compare it to radeonsi performance wise.


I don't think anyone would say this with any negativity towards the folks who are developing the nouveau driver. Given the circumstances that they are working under (no useful help from the vendor), they have done heroic work.

But I think you are missing the point here and that is: if you want to buy a GPU now for a Linux machine and you don't want to use a big proprietary blob, AMD is by far the best choice, because the amdgpu driver outperforms the nouveau driver.


> if you want to buy a GPU now for a Linux machine and you don't want to use a big proprietary blob, AMD is by far the best choice, because the amdgpu driver outperforms the nouveau driver.

No doubt, I said so explicitly elsewhere in this thread. I.e. that on Linux Nvidia will lose its current dominance.


Sure it makes sense, since the graphics driver for most is a means to an end. Few users are graphics driver fans based on how commendable the progress is relative to circumstances. Though this is of course a good and valid POV too.


Not intended as a slight against nouveau. I’ll spare you a political rant.




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