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Show HN: Ora.pm – New task management service (ora.pm)
122 points by uffo on May 10, 2017 | hide | past | favorite | 66 comments


Wow, this is so much better than Trello. You implement exactly what's missing: a "planning" view (Trello's card view sucks so much) and task tracking. Congratulations.

However, in order to jump there I'd need an import/export feature. Import because I can't manually add the hundreds of cards and comments I have in Trello. Export because, well, you're a startup and I want to know that if you shut down in the future at least I can export my cards and not lose data.

Are those things planned?

Edit: As general feedback, what I'm missing the most from the product are keyboard shortcuts and a sidebar to move quickly between projects.


That is a good point! We have import from Trello, but no exports yet. I will add that to our product backlog. We will add more extensive keyboard support in a future update.


Hi uffo, where's the import feature? I couldn't find it.

By the way, I really liked your onboarding. Ora is more complex than other tools (since it is many tools in one) but you make a good job of explaining stuff without being too much "in your face"


The signup experience was great! I liked the walkthrough. I'd recommend focusing a bit more on front-end performance though. Dragging cards, for example, was a quite sluggish. Especially compared to Trello. Since that's the thing that we do the most on a storyboard, it makes me want to use your product a bit less. You're also pushing >3MB of JS to the client. Consider trimming that down a bit.


Thanks! Thats great advice and I absolutely agree with you. We have some plans in action for both the size and the performance of the app.


It looks really great. It would be nice if 2-factor authentication was standard (startup/professional) feature, now it's enterprise only.


Good point! We might rethink that.


2 Factor Authentication File encryption

Should not be a Enterprise only feature, it shouldn't be a feature at all it should be standard.


Wow, this is incredible.

I'd love to know the following things:

1) Did you just "build it and hope they will come" because it looks like a lot of work?

2) How many of you worked on it and how long did it take you; the finish seems very high (with a few very small weirdnesses - e.g. it stopped allowing me to add new items to a checklist for some reason until I reloaded, in safari the tab crashes when switching from Kanabn view to List view).

3) What's it built in, backend and frontend wise?

4) Do you have funding?

5) I've always wanted Trello to allow me stacked lists within one column for various things (like mental models -> http://rosenfeldmedia.com/books/mental-models/), probably low on your list but for me it would be exceptional.

Thanks!


Thanks! I would be happy to answer.

1) More like build it and post in HN :D (just kidding) But we are a product oriented company so we definitely do more development than marketing.

2) We are a small team of 5, it took us ruffly 2 years of development to get Ora where it is today.

3) Backend is python frontend is angular.

4) We are self funded our other app http://protosketch.io pays the bills at the moment.

5) This seems pretty cool, I will add it as a feature request.


Any plans to switch to Angular 2/4 at some point?


React is going to be our next framework ply


Serious question, why would you change?


AngularJS is great but not without flaws. (cough..watchers) We are either going to jump to Angular 2/4 or React


If you can spare the time, would love to hear about the decision making process when you do, if you are open to blogging about it :)


The slider at the bottom and the sign in/sign up/reset form are very well made. That's a good design. Good job!


Thanks! I made those :D


It's quite lovely but I personally can't stand the domain. First impression: people are launching new Perl projects in 2017?

I know that's goofy and utterly subjective, but it was still my initial thought.


Hehe for what it's worth as a Perl developer, I read that as ".ProjectManagement" but I can see your point. At ZipRecruiter we're launching stuff all the time. Builtinperl.com lists some more people chugging on quietly with Perl :).

As for the submission itself, it looks pretty good though I'm having a few navigation difficulties on my phone. My mom has been looking for a one stop todo/task/chat/trello solution so it's pretty timely that this showed up. I'm not sure that copying Slack's UI is the most cohesive way to integrate chat into the App but I can see why that would seem like an appealing choice.


That was the association we were looking for :) As people that have nothing to do with perl .pm for us is short from "project management" and also we like how short our domain is.


This looks really cool. Great job.

One tiny bit of UX feedback... on the pricing page the slider and what the slider changes are too far apart. It took me a while of sliding to figure out it was changing the user count. At first glance it looked like it was changing price (and why would I want to slide price up!)

Also, I'm confused why that one guy is standing off to the right in the homepage graphic. Is that supposed to be me (the manager) just sitting there drinking coffee while the team does real work? :-P


Yes, that's you :) Enjoying the life (coffee) while your team is super optimized because they use Ora


I noticed a few typos here and there (submitted corrections using Send Feedback) but overall, I like it.

There've been a few services I've tried to use that blended different styles (To Do, Kanban etc) but I found most of them a bit lacking.

I guess it's one of those things where I kind of would want everything including the kitchen sink (or in this case, time tracking, Github integration and so on.

Anyway, I look forward to trying it out with some personal projects


Someone send really long email with typos from a "private" email was that you? If so thank you! I think we fixed all typos.


On your pricing page it mentions 'basic' add-ons and integrations and 'advanced' add-ons and integrations. What are these? I cannot find any other reference to these on your site.


Some future advanced features will be available only to the paid plans. Right now everything is available to everyone. Main restriction in place is the number of allowed users on a free project. (3)


Is there an API (even in beta)?

I was going to use Trello for something but I would be happy to give this a shot instead, I did want something more customizable and this seems to be fit that bill (I signed up and everything).

Thanks!


An API is a part of our roadmap, but currently we have a lot of features that people would like to see, and we cannot focus on it.


would be nice to have gitlab integration as well


I will add that to our backlog.


And matrix.org? :>


Site looks really nice (although I'm getting tired of all this cutesy stuff) - but I found the horizontal scrolling on the main project view a bit strange. And no drag-and-drop?

It looks like you guys have also cloned Slack as yet another feature. I bet that's a huge engineering burden to clone something that everybody is already using - might want to just drop that feature, make a Slack integration and get back to focusing on your One Defining Thing.


Hi Mizza, there is no editing on public projects that are shown as demos. And because drag & drop is editing it is disabled there. We have a slack integration already :) It's a good advice, we will see how things go.


I'm genuinely astounded how good this is, simply brilliant.

That said UX/UI niggles http://i.imgur.com/xkjYGf1.png the contrast on the hover elements is far too low, if you have vision issues (or simply a poor screen) they'd be very hard to see.

Otherwise kudos, this is one of the best in-browser apps I've seen in a while!.


That's a good point. Thanks!


Wish this was bit more affordable for some of us in Asia, would really help get everyone more organized.


When I signed up, I got an error saying the password had to contain more than 6 characters. It was 24 characters long. I guess the problem was that the password contained spaces, and the first word was less than 6 characters long. Otherwise, this looks like a great product!


Thanks for bringing that up. We should change the rules to allow that.


Who puts spaces in passwords?


Why wouldn't you?



Testing right now, feels very snappy. May I ask the tech stack?

Also, you guys are probably trying multiple business models.. I'd say that a free tier for small teams (like Trello, bitbucket) would be super interesting, if you can still make money from the big players (a la github).


Tech stack is AngularJS for the frontend with Python (Jango & Tornado) for the backend.

If it was up to me I'll make it completely free but somebody has to pay the bills. Right now limit for the free team is 3 users. We might up that a bit in the future once we feel more financially confident.


Very nice work on the site and the app. I understand the handy features it has that Trello hasn't but am not sure if it has enough to convince me to shell out another $30/month subscription for something close that we have free now. But that might be just me!


Thanks!

We have many ideas for the future, follow us on social media to be the first that hears about them.


More than the product I am more impressed with this post. That is the incredibly lucky and equivalent worth of thousands of dollars to get your product to front page of HN. How else do you market and promote, do you post to Product hunt, do AdWords?


This looks nice. Tough space with established players, but you have some UI ideas here that are better than your competitors. I really like the "outline" view of the boards in list view. Impressive work.


Very well designed, one "issue" however is when I open cards there is a small delay before the card title is centered, it opens to the extreme left of the modal as if it's waiting for styling.


Thanks for the feedback! I will add this as a bug so that we can fix it.


Looks awesome, but the landing page takes a really long time to load on my phone - at least 40 seconds or so. On desktop it also feels a bit slow, but it's not nearly as bad.


We are planning to add lazy loading in a future update to fix that. Right now the entire app loads so that you can see the landing page and then never even enter the app itself.


This tool looks really nice, great design, although the feature set is very similar to Nostromo.io or Trello. Curious to find out what's the difference.


Nice art work

I find that swooping sound in the kanban board kind of weird. And when i drag a card it kind of, disappears for a second then appears in the new column?


I agree, Sounds need some work! You can stop them from the notifications popover.


Nice design, i feel like the marketing homepage feels a little weird, it feels like a poorly coded angular app. But the app itself is awesome!


Just wanted to say that the site looks amazing! Loved the animations and the attention to detail!


Thank you! That means a lot to us! Attention to detail is a core value for us :)


I logged in just to say this. This app is incredible.

I had wanted something like this for a really long time.


This seems like a nice and decent product. I hope it takes off. Good luck!


Thanks!


Needs a self-hosted version.


In the works


Great to hear. Looks great, I'm interested.


500 Internal Server Error

nginx/1.10.0 (Ubuntu)

Sad


Fixed.


IMO it is just some mix of Todoist and Trello




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