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>The primary issue with a larger mass is accelerating and decelerating it

It's actually friction, for electric cars. Regen is pretty effective at recapturing acceleration, so the energy lost in the wheels is the biggest factor.



> It's actually friction, for electric cars. Regen is pretty effective at recapturing acceleration, so the energy lost in the wheels is the biggest factor.

Mass counts much. It's not just about accelerating a still object (car) out of friction. But it's also about working against gravity (g). If the car's acceleration vector is at some angle with gravity (ie, when not perpendicular), more energy will be required to accelerate (when climbing slops), and to break (down the slope).

This is very much clear for aircrafts, and other flying objects.

Edit: Inertia is also a reason for energy loss in cars (and other moving objects), which increases with mass.


Regeneration recovers a certain percentage of any energy put into speed or altitude. No matter how long you spend climbing you get a good fraction of that energy back. In practice this is pretty quick, and even in stop and go you spend more time at around the same speed than accelerating and slowing.

Rolling friction loss is related to speed and is occurring constantly as you drive. That energy is just gone immediately, unlike inertia, which is stored. Say you spend 50% of your time accelerating and braking, and 50% keeping speed. If you regen 80% of the energy and accelerate with 2.5x the power you use to cruise, you're using twice as much energy on friction as accelerating.


The parent mentioned regen and that electric cars are good at it. That means: you don't accelerate infinitely. At some point you decelerate, and then you can regenerate the electric energy. However long you drive uphill, eventually comes the downhill of equal length and you regenerate.

I don't know how good exactly electric cars are here, but considering that a Tesla can work as a taxi in the city, it must be pretty good.

[edit: punctuation]


You can get a good % of regen if you slow down slowly, once the brake pads have to touch the rotors, you are throwing energy away.

Unless these batteries can accept charge faster, their extra mass won't be offset by more regen.


Except for the risks inherent in large quantities of mechanical inertia stored in a rotating mass, flywheels might seem an attractive option for rapid energy exchange.


Wouldn't there also be loss due to "rate of change of acceleration" or "Jerk" of which mass may have an effect?

The same reason city driving is less efficient?


Not really. Acceleration is related to torque so jerk is the rate of change of current in the motor. Current in an electric motor goes from 0-100% ~10k times per second (PWM), so the motor doesn't notice much difference.


>Current in an electric motor goes from 0-100% ~10k times per second (PWM)

That's just the voltage across the terminals. The reason why this works is precisely because current doesn't go from 0-100% with the voltage. PWM is relying on the inductance of the motor to keep the current the same as it would be if the average voltage was applied across the terminals.




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