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Some people can be very moral, very amoral or very immoral. All countries and all governments are made of a mix of all three. To judge nations by the standards of individuals you would need to declare them all schizophrenic. "Good guys" live in comic books, not history books.

Again, not saying that making attempts to legally commit and then follow through with principles on the part of nations is a bad thing. I am a constructivist, I think nations can "improve morally". But is more a matter of which nation has the best institutions to curb their own (or each other's) abuses in practice, rather than anyone being "the good guys".




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