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> So basically by your definition, level 5 will never ever happen? Seems a bit useless then TBH.

Well, even trains on tracks have humans ready to pull the break if something is wrong up ahead.

Would you ride a train that had an accident caused by something for which its driverless system was not prepared, but that a human conductor could have avoided?

I think it's possible level 5 will happen. There will still be accidents on roads where only driverless vehicles exist. Some people will choose to ride in such vehicles, and some won't.




No, what I'm trying to get at is GP post changed the definition of level 5 from "some cars don't have steering wheels" to "all cars don't have steering wheels". A non-self-driving car will (by definition) always be cheaper than a self-driving car, and some people just like driving or distrust machines. Together with the fact that (especially in the United States of Freedom) governments will never ban cars with steering wheels, that definition of level 5 will never happen.


> A non-self-driving car will (by definition) always be cheaper than a self-driving car

I don't think that's true at all. A self-driving car can save money on not having to have a steering wheel, pedals, hand-brake etc. Possibly even won't require airbags or seat belts if safety is improved massively

non-self driving cars could become expensive luxury cars


Surely you jest; that the cost of the wide array of self driving sensors, the data input subscription and the hardware and software to run the self-driving system is cheaper than a few mass-produced bits of plastic and metal?


Not right now.

Maybe in the future. Especially 'hardware and software to run the self-driving system' will cost a few dollars (small computer, zero amortized cost of software)


Oh, yeah, I totally agree. For cost reasons alone, the world will never be uniformly automated.

That's weird to change the definition that way. The levels describe an individual car, not all cars.




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