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>Sorry, what is this based on?

Conversations I've had where people have told me that self-driving cars will need to be 100% perfect before they should be used. Ironically, one of those people was an ex-gf of mine who caused two car accidents because she was putting on makeup while driving.

Anyway, based on Google's extensive test results, I'm pretty sure self-driving cars are already advanced enough to be less of a risk than humans. Right now, the sensors seem to be the limiting the factor.




Try looking for results where the Google car is driving off-road. There aren't any. That's because it can't drive off-road. It can't, because it needs its environment to be fully mapped. In other words: it's not about the sensors.

This should make, er, sense. Sensing your surroundings is only the first step in taking complex decisions based on those surroundings. The AI field as a whole has not yet solved this, so there's no reason to expect that self-driving cars have.

Seen another way, if self-driving cars could really drive themselves at least as good as humans drive them, we wouldn't have compilations of videos of robots falling off while trying to turn door knobs, on youtube.

The state of the art in AI is such that self-driving cars are not yet less dangerous than humans.

>> an ex-gf of mine who caused two car accidents because she was putting on makeup while driving.

Honestly.


>The state of the art in AI is such that self-driving cars are not yet less dangerous than humans.

Google's self-driving car accident statistics say otherwise.

>Honestly.

Yeah. Weirdest part was, she actually thought she was a GOOD driver. Mostly because of all the times she was able to apply makeup while driving and didn't cause an accident.


>> Google's self-driving car accident statistics say otherwise.

That's an experiment that's been running in a tiny part of one state in one country for a very limited time. I wouldn't count on them and in any case, see what I say above: the state of the art is not there yet, for fully autonomous driving better than humans'.

>> Yeah. Weirdest part was, she actually thought she was a GOOD driver. Mostly because of all the times she was able to apply makeup while driving and didn't cause an accident.

:snorts coffee:


>That's an experiment that's been running in a tiny part of one state in one country for a very limited time.

It's driven over 1 million miles. That's the equivalent of 75 years of driving for the average human. Plenty of data to draw a conclusion from. In all that time, it's been responsible for a single accident. That's way better than human drivers.


Hours driven are one dimension, that is indeed important. However, there is also the geographical aspect that I point out and that may be more important in practice. I mentioned off-road driving. There's also driving in busy roads. The Google car project has not driven for 1 million miles in a busy city, like NY or SF or whatever, neither in heavy traffic conditions.

Then there's the fact that human drivers have to drive in all sorts of weather conditions with all sorts of different vehicles and so on. Google car- not so much.

But my point is very simple: AI in general is nowhere near producing autonomous robots, yet. Why would Google car (or a similar project) be the exception? What makes cars and driving so different that autonomy is easier to attain?




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