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Scottish Tech Map (docs.google.com)
140 points by jbms on July 13, 2016 | hide | past | favorite | 41 comments


Hello, I'm the founder of https://opentechcalendar.co.uk/ mentioned in the events tab.

We are a open site listing tech events around Scotland. Open means anyone can add an event, like a wiki. We can import data from suitable open sources, and most importantly we have many Open Data feeds. Our data is reused many times by many different people and sites.

We are about to celebrate our 4th birthday, and are the main listings site in Scotland. There is a great community around, and we are proud to be part of that (we are based in Edinburgh). Our software is Open Source to!

Give me a shout if any questions, Thanks, James


Awesome work. Down here in England we have something very similar - https://www.techdiary.co.uk - it might be worthwhile reaching out to that site for some sort of data sharing arrangement, especially for the London events.


Think I've seen that before - I'll check and reach out. Always happy to chat - email hello at the website.

We're not just Scotland, we have a lot of events listed in Sheffield to.

It's an interesting one - looking at the site, we have more tech features in terms of working with events data. One of the big things we do that we haven't seen many others do is have a system where anyone with a user account can add and edit data directly. We think this is very important - if only one or a few ppl can work on events the burden on them to make sure it's kept up to date becomes very big. If this burden is spread over many editors, then "many hands make light work". (We also have several other tricks to make sure our data is kept up to date!)

That said tho, for a community site like this the community is more important! It's very interesting to see the variety of approaches that are taken. If people from an area want to talk about using Open Tech Calendar in their area or have feedback, do get in touch.


You only have two upcoming events in Manchester, so it's probably worth pointing out this http://technw.uk/calendar for the north west.


Thanks! I've talked to a lot of people in Manchester, it has a very interesting scene.


What it is:

Freely editable google spreadsheet with information on where tech is happening in Scotland. Currently lists >300 companies and 90 groups/events.

What it's not:

- A startup/VC map.

Challenges:

- getting people to add/curate existing content (current theory: I think people browse mostly on phones, and can't edit without installing the Google Sheets app), as I can't put a lot of time into it.

- better quality categorisation of companies

- finding dev teams within organisations like local government

- identifying what's missing (my gut feel is there's easily another 300-1k companies to add, but most existing entries have come through business directories or searches on twitter for "developers/python/java/etc near me").

How it began:

The wikipedia article on Silicon Glen is short and out of date.

I was finding out about companies geographically near me in similar industries that I just wasn't coming across unless they were hiring.

I heard of Eden Shochat, who successfully crowdsourced the Israeli startup scene in a Google spreadsheet.


Google spreadsheets can't handle the concurrent users coming from HN.

To add:

Try this form to add a company: http://goo.gl/forms/5OEg6TahHdLrPmaG3

And this form to add an event: http://goo.gl/forms/LI36LptYhqbuudY83


Not sure this is relevant but it might be helpful to people looking for a similar project like this to work on:

Heres a curated tech calendar for Dublin, Ireland.

https://www.startupdigest.com/digests/dublin

The Dublin startup commissioner just launched this is week as well:

http://www.techireland.org/

Basically a database of the Irish tech scene.


That's really cool!

It speaks volumes for how well connected and supported the startup scene is there that Dublin has a funded "startup commissioner". We're lagging a lot behind in Scotland at the moment.


Really cool list. I'm founder of RookieOven - https://rookieoven.com - a coworking space for tech startups in Glasgow based in a Victorian shipyard.

If anyone is ever in Glasgow and looking to meet the local community feel free to pay us a visit.


I'm just down the road - I might pop past at some point for a nosey :-) The only things of note I'd ever spotted in Govan were Titan Props and Film City - live and learn!


More than welcome. We're in the recently restored Fairfield Shipyard Offices on Govan Road so not been open for too long. We also do a monthly meetup for local startups in The Raven on the first Monday of each month.


Very proud to see the medical company I work for listed here, and not even by me.

Optos was acquired last year by Nikon, and we're going strong and expanding into new tech for devices we're releasing this year and next.

We're hiring a few positions right now if shooting lasers into people's eyes to save their sight is your kind of thing: http://www.optos.com/en-GB/About-us/Careers/Europe/


This is great. We love being part of the Scottish tech scene. There are some really great meetups around Edinburgh and Glasgow areas too.


On this topic, is anyone in the Glasgow area doing anything cool with Golang? I'm looking to dive in and wondering if there is any kind of local community around it - travelling to Edinburgh for meetups is inconvenient to say the least!


Love it! Scotland has a fantastic tech scene which I'm super happy to be part of :)


There's also a list of Edinburgh-based software companies on http://www.nobugs.org/deved/, though the last update was 2015-09.


Very cool! I've been looking for something like this for a while in hopes that I could get a better feel for the tech industry through Scotland. I lived there for 7 years during middle school and high school and I'm always flirting with the idea of heading back. Sadly my EU residency lapsed, making it a little more difficult (not that it would help for much longer..).

It would be great to have more sorting options, particularly if I wanted to get back to the Granite city :).


Calendar of events for belgium: https://hackeragenda.be/?section=all (source code: https://github.com/psycojoker/hackeragenda, fork and enjoy o/)


Great resource, thanks for posting this.

Would like to see more Scottish robotics startups & meetups.


I'm building something similar for Romania: http://www.it-events.ro/ (very early stage ATM).


Just saw your comment - you interested in Open Source software for this? :-) http://ican.openacalendar.org/


How do we add to the list? The Companies page doesn't seem to be editable.

Perhaps you should consider adding the data to a simple WordPress site. I'd be happy to set that up for you on my server.


Maybe a better idea would be a Google Forms instance to submit listings, then some manual validation and normalisation, and s script to pull it from the Google Docs spreadsheet and generate a static web page. Makes for cheap and easy hosting, and you could easily map the events and companies on Google Maps or OSM if you add a lat/long field.

That way, it'd be easy to submit and even easier to consume the data.

And if you kept the dataset open, people could reuse it in a bunch of useful ways.


Did you have any comments on https://opentechcalendar.co.uk/ ? We are not static* or Google Docs but we do the rest - people can add, we work with lat/lngs on maps and have many Open Data feeds that already have lots of users.

* Tho last year we did start playing with a static site generator for fun, tho it's not production ready yet.


I incidentally found Open Tech Calendar for the first time a few days ago and really like it.

Besides a few small design niggles, I think it's great.

The data export (and the fact the data is in the public domain) is really useful. The lack of adverts (besides a little sponsor shout out) makes me much more comfortable contributing data here. I appreciate the OSM maps.

Honestly, you really don't need to go the static route. That was perhaps a more useful suggestion for the OP as they don't have any dynamic web infrastructure in place and it would offer a quick win in terms of usability. Same goes for Google docs - it was a good for the OP's situation but it's not necessary in your case, especially with your strong export functionality. Stick with dynamic, you've done a good job there!

If I could make a couple of little suggestions:

1. A few wee design tweaks might help: on desktop browsers the font size is really big in places (24px in the header explanation text), the background image is a little distracting and difficult to make out, and the max width of 1200px reduces readability a bit for some users). Nothing major, just some little tweaks.

2. I only found the site recently and wish I'd come across it before now. Do what you're doing here - keep reaching out to people in the community.

3. Slim down the terms and conditions a bit and adopt an open license. The footer says that event data is in the public domain, but this term is a little fuzzy and the legal meaning isn't always clear. On the terms page, you talk about a limited license. I'd suggest going with CC0 [0] for event data (it's like public domain, but with specific and universally understood legal meaning). And perhaps just state that all rights are reserved with regards to site name and logos. It makes things clearer for people who might want to use the data.

[0] https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/


Hello. Thanks for your comments :-)

Don't worry, Open Tech Calendar will never go Static - there are to many features that just won't work. However, the static site was something we tried as an experiment to make us look afresh at this problem. We may carry on with it someday, but it has already driven a bunch of code quality improvements in the main app which is great.

If you are interested, could you join https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/openacalendar ? This is for the Open Source software, and we discuss features and design issues there. Very happy to have any constructive criticism discussion there! But let me try and address some points very quickly now, tho it's late and I'm off to a hackday tomorrow! (That's the Excuses in :-) )

1. I want to recheck all font sizes - they've all been picked piecemeal. I do want to make sure the fonts are slightly large tho - while I have no problem with lower size fonts I know some people with vision problems do.

For the max width, do you want it wider than 1200px? We actually have just done some design work that touches on this: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/openacalendar/HvsKB3...

The image isn't really meant to be fully detailed, it's just to add a bit of texture. I was thinking of trying some different images, maybe it's time to!

2. Thanks! :-)

3. I would like to be clearer on the legal side, but I have some questions of my own about legal points and could really do with a discussion with a friendly lawyer! But rest assured I want the data to be open for all sensible uses.

Anyway, hopefully this makes sense. Please do join the email list or email hello at the site domain with more points. Thanks, James


Hi, well thanks for listening :)

I'll take a little look at the Google Group tomorrow and would like to give some feedback! I think the project is fantastic.

I've got a couple of little follow-up comments on accessibility...

One important thing to remember about visually impaired users is that they almost always have their base font size in their browser set high already, or are using a magnifier. So 150% of an already large font becomes an unusably ginormous font. While the intention is definitely good, it can have the opposite effect (I speak from experience working with both technical and non-technical family members who are partially sighted). A base size of 14-16px (depending on font), increasing to 1.5em or 2em for headers works really well, and doesn't overcompensate when visually impaired users have their own font magnifying solutions in place (as they most often do because they're needed for the vast majority of websites).

And in terms of the max width, I'd definitely take it down from 1200px. Long lines are harder to read [0 (also a really good example of readable width)]. Playing with the site in Chrome dev tools, "max-width: 54em;" works really well. It stops the right-aligned/floated elements being across a wide chasm from the left-aligned elements, and it keeps line lengths at a really readable limit. And by using ems instead of pixels, if visually impaired users have a higher base font size (which doesn't scale non-text elements with sizes in pixels), it won't distort the page layout.

[0] http://baymard.com/blog/line-length-readability


> almost always have their base font size in their browser set high already

I've come across people who don't - but still, maybe this is generally the way to go.

Thanks for your detailed feedback and encouragement. I've made 2 issues at https://github.com/OpenACalendar/OpenACalendar-Web-Core/issu... and https://github.com/OpenACalendar/OpenACalendar-Web-Core/issu... - but if you had time to comment on the Google Group that would be great :-)


Many thanks for the offer. I'd like it as a website (I'm recommending my spouse does that for a Scots[TBD_which_specific_branch_of_Creatives]Map she's working on) but for now I want it as easy to edit as possible.


I think it would be pretty easy for people to add their info. Let me make a sample tomorrow.


I suspect there's so many people browsing that it doesn't allow simultaneous editing by them all. They're normally all editable. It was editable a few minutes ago with ~ 77 users.


I don't see the edit buttons at all, even using a different browser. I'll try later.


There aren't any - normally you click in a cell and can edit it immediately.

Try this form to add a company: http://goo.gl/forms/5OEg6TahHdLrPmaG3

And this form to add an event: http://goo.gl/forms/LI36LptYhqbuudY83


I was able to get in and add Newslines. Thank you!


What's the point of this thread? Honest question.

I have the feeling it is pointless keeping such map from the perspective of Brexit. Soon Scotland will be off of Eu, and all these businesses will be facing very different realities in short time. I would refrain make business with companies with whom I'd face more taxes or red tape just because their countries would left the EU.

So what are we trying to do here? Explore more the Scottish market? The soon-to-be limited UK market?

I am lost. Could someone explain it to me?


The point is to raise awareness of a basic tool that tracks Scotland's tech industry. That is of interest to lots of people.

Potential uses of the tool itself:

- Helping people find potential job opportunities in Scotland

- Helping tech companies in Scotland find other tech companies within Scotland

- Getting people excited about some of what's happening in Scotland. It's a small country but it has some $1b tech companies and lots more are on the way.

- Encouraging international companies to start divisions/design houses/engineering centres in Scotland due to the quantity of comparatively-cheap talent. This is happening a lot already.

If things are getting harder internationally for Scottish businesses (which I don't believe or expect for the tech industry), then surely this becomes even more important as those companies will want to partner more within Scotland?


> Soon Scotland will be off of Eu

I have a feeling it won't


Is there a list of tech companies/agencies for NYC out there? Asking for a friend.


Wouldn't wiki be a better format for this than a Google sheet?


Any suggestions for ones that are easy and free to setup?




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