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15-Year-Old’s 200 Vintage Apple Computers Are Now a Mac Museum (nytimes.com)
118 points by leephillips on May 9, 2016 | hide | past | favorite | 46 comments



Reminds me of how I started my MicroVAX collection, I saw a couple at a closed auction and had to bid the minimum to see the price they went for. Turns out it was the only bid and I found myself the owner of a couple of MicroVAX 3's in the ginormous BA123 roll-around chassis.

The other thing that it reminds of that things in context are more valuable than things in isolation. Specifically by going to the trouble to research the systems, understand their place in Apple history, the exhibit takes on a value that simply having an old Apple computer would not.

My hat's off to the kid.


Acceptable usage?

  MicroVaxen 3

  MicroVax 3en


Obligatory VAX jousting video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYP-F7XxrDA


Ok, that is sad. I get it, really I do, but its sad to see what were once machines doing service to some goal somewhere, being smashed together for kicks like that.


Don't worry, this was 2002. It'd be like jousting with a couple Proliant G3s or something.


Amazing! Absolutely gorgeous collection. I wonder how came into possession of an original Apple I board - that's like finding the Holy Grail!


Seriously. I thought 'oh cool, I have a bit of a collection too' and then the article casually drops that he has an Apple I. Not exactly something a 15 year old typically gets their hands on.

The video (1) shows these machines in fantastic condition - this must have cost a pretty penny, most old machines from eBay or craigslist aren't in great shape. Only thing I can see is they could use a bit of retr0bright to get rid of the yellowing.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb_-1Sb8Bbw


The use of retr0bright could be controversial, I would think: For many collectibles, the value goes down once that sort of restoration is undertaken. I know that's true for collectible coins, at least...


right right right, don't do anything to the plastic. To a museum the natural aging of the plastic is part of the artifact and its history. Ret0bright[1] is a chemical combination that could have effects down the line. museums have to think in terms of storing artifacts for 100 years.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retr0bright


And watches...


I am curious how he got his hands on that. $900k is a lot of lawn mowing. Did he get lucky at a garage sale? Maybe there was a friendly donor?


Next time I visit family in Maine I need to stop by this place. Literally heaven. And I want to shake this kid's hand for preserving these relics.


There are quite a few interesting computers in his collection. The Twentieth Anniversary Macintosh, blue JLPGA PowerBook 170 (only 500 units produced) and NeXT hardware all stood out to me as particularly rare and expensive.


Other uncommon computers I noticed

* Apple Interactive Television box

* Macintosh TV

* Prototype Newtons (note the transparent cases)

* Prototype Macintosh Portable

* Prototype Macintosh Color Classic

* @WORLD black Pippin


Its a gravitational thing - once people know you have a sizable computer collection, they look out for computers for you, and the more likely some rare ones will fall in your lap (amongst tens of no so rare ones.)

Also given what I've seen at electronics recycling yards you could build up a pretty good early mac collection nowadays.


On Saturday he was looking for so-called Easter eggs, or surprises hidden by software programmers, on Macintosh SE models that reveal a slide show of the company’s development team.

>G 41D89A

That one has been etched in my brain for the last 29 years.


Also, a hardware Easter egg, some Macs had a bunch of signatures inside their cases. Of course, you need a foot long hex wrench to get inside to see.

http://www.cultofmac.com/122408/signed-by-steve-jobs-co-sign...


Oh man, that Torx wrench. Pre-internet, that was nearly impossible to find unless you knew someone that had a Mac repair business.


They were routinely sold under the name "MacCracker" - and had a flat disk with a ridge. Once the screws were out, the ridge would be worked as a lever to separate the edges.

Bottom has some screen shots:

http://www.tcocd.de/Pictures/Micro/Apple/mac128.shtml


I made my own, I got a torx bit set and an extender. The extender would not fit all the way, so I spent an afternoon filing the extender down until it was narrow enough.


Also mentioned in the article, in case you're not in the U.S.: Last year, the largest private collection of historic apple products has opened as a museum in Prague: http://www.applemuseum.com/en/about-us

(Reviews on tripadvisor are a bit mixed, but looks promising)


Lawn cutting? I'm more curious about how they fund this. And why? such a young kid collecting stuff like he's a storage wars hunter


Perhaps you could even call it a "hedge fund"


No more internet for you today, young man.


I haven't been keeping up specifically with lawnmowing, but at least for general housekeeping $20/hour isn't a crazy rate in some areas. Easy to see how a motivated kid could earn $100-$200/day in the summer mowing lawns.


> Other prized artifacts include ... the first prototype of a mouse, known as the Cursor III ...

Is that correct?


No the first prototype mouse was this one I think: http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch001083.htm Made in the 60s and patented in 1970.

The Cursor III is this: http://www.vintagemacworld.com/add2/add8.jpg


wow. that vintage Mac peripherals photo is awesome. everything _still_ looks futuristic.


Drop the comma and it could very well be correct.


> Lisa 2/5

Love the design of this model. Reminds me of the VT-100 [0] I used and loved at Uni. For some reason, machine design (desktop) has got flimsier and moved away this style.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VT100


The change from CRT to LCD likely is a big contributor to the change of design.


They're over 5 years old? That's just sad.


It says "vintage", not "old". And next year it will be 6 years, then 7...



Oh, I'd forgotten about that quote. I get it now.


"Apple itself, founded by Mr. Jobs and his high school friend Stephen Wozniak in a suburban California garage in 1976"

never heard of it


California? It's that big state on the left side of the map. It looks like a rectangle, bent in the middle. Like a UPS box.

Take a right turn at Albuquerque. Stop when you hit water. Can't miss it.


What a rich little snob of a kid! I had to beg & plead & promise dad I'd start a business (selling labels??) so he'd get me an Apple IIc. Which I was very happy for. At the age of 12. Thanks Dad!


I'm not sure it's warranted to call him a rich little snob. I read this article and one that it linked to, and it seems like he worked hard earning and saving money to build the collection. Maybe his parents are rich and are really the ones funding this but I didn't see anything to back that up.


No average 15-year old can “work hard” and simply “earn” the enormous gobs of money this kind of collection costs. Someone older who can be assumed to have worked their whole life and slowly accumulated a large collection, such a person have demonstrated dedication and sacrifice, which signifies genuine interest and love for the subject. But someone 15 years old? They must have simply bought it all, over a comparitively short period of time, for ungodly amounts of money. And when neither time, effort or sacrifice is involved, it’s very hard to trust the person to be genuinly interested.

Sure, they could still very well be genuinely interested and dedicated to the subject. But, while we normally can make the reasonable assumption that a person who owns a large collection necessarily is genuinely interested in the subject (per the above reasoning), in this case this reasoning is not valid. They still might be genuinely interested, but we have no way of knowing that.


No way ... except, perhaps, by reading TFA:

"Alex said his first breakthrough was buying a collection of 50 Apple computers — enough to fill a 26-foot-long U-Haul — with $2,000 he had saved from mowing lawns."

"Alex described himself as a longtime tinkerer who studied how tractors worked at the John Deere dealership, explored the innards of computers ... He was inspired to pursue Apple computers after he upgraded the hard drive and RAM on his first computer, the iMac G5, on his own."

And in a referenced article <http://www.cultofmac.com/417572/teen-uses-lawn-mowing-money-...:

"Alex quickly discovered he could not tinker much with his G5 because it was already at its limit for upgrading. So he sought older Macs for sale to take them apart, get them working, and learn how they are put together."

But I guess it's easier to just pontificate.


Sure he’s interested – for the moment. It’s whether the interest will persist that we have no way of knowing. My point was that since he has done this for such a short time, the size of his collection can’t, as it normally would, indicate time spent and thus a larger than passing interest.

Also, my comment was to someone that seemed to claim that someone that young could simply “work hard” and earn the money. Now, unless you’re surrounded by people with way too much money than they know what to do with, this isn’t true.


> But someone 15 years old? They must have simply bought it all, over a comparitively short period of time, for ungodly amounts of money. And when neither time, effort or sacrifice is involved, it’s very hard to trust the person to be genuinly interested.

If they bought it for "ungodly amounts of money", doesn't that imply some sacrifice? I mean, presumably, they gave up whatever else they could have instead used those "ungodly amounts of money" for.


Possibly, yes. But I feel it unlikely that anyone who spends that much more or less at once doesn’t have a lot more where that came from. And sacrifice is not measured in raw dollar value, it’s measured in the hardship you have to endure due to the things you gave up. If someone ate porridge for two years, that’s a sacrifice. If someone sold their third house, that’s not a meaningful sacrifice, even if what they gave up – the use of a whole house – is comparatively larger.


As another poster pointed out, if you read the linked article or the CultOfMac article that it links to then it's clear that he is interested. And I don't see why you care that he make some meaningful sacrifice, or how you feel entitled to judge that off the tiny amount of information we have? From what I remember of being in my early teens saving $2000 from mowing lawns would have been a huge effort, regardless of whether my parents helped my hobby. Cut the kid some slack - he's making a public museum out his collection, after all.


My only point is that we can’t judge a person with this kind of collection by the size of the collection alone. The effort and dedication usually needed to amass such a large collection is what we really admire (or should, anyway), and the size of the collection is usually a proxy for that, so at first instinct, we are impressed by this person. But the size does not imply effort and dedication in this case, for two reasons: Firstly, he’s too young to have been doing this for very long, so we don’t know if this will simply be a passing fancy of his. (I’m not saying it will be, I’m saying that in this case we don’t know; unlike a normal aging collector which we can reasonably assume to have put in the years required for our admiration.) Secondly, as a consequence of the first, he must have bought it all relatively quickly, and we all know that when you want something fast, it’ll cost you. Also, things like an Apple I don’t come cheap nowadays, no matter how many years you spend roaming flea markets looking for them. This suggests that he has a lot of money – much more than the average adult, even – which in turn suggests that he hasn’t made any significant monetary sacrifice in acquiring the collection.

So, we can reasonably deduce that he hasn’t spent much time, effort or money (for him, anyway) on this collection, at least compared to the usual collector with a comparable collection. Therefore, we can’t say anything about his dedication to and interest in this subject, because the collection alone does not demonstrate it.

I am not trying to denigrate him – I am simply not impressed by him yet.




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