I was referring to the fact that they mostly hire people that are (a) Jews and (b) Jewish. Jew is a race that I'm aware of. So, it's usually racist and religious discrimination.
What? No. Ashkenazim might be genetically similar, but even there, not a race. And there are also Sephardim. Also Jews from Africa? Definitely not a race.
Particularly, this statement: "Genetic studies on Jews show that most Jews worldwide bear a common genetic heritage which originates in the Middle East, and that they bear their strongest resemblance to the peoples of the Fertile Crescent.[58][59][60] The genetic composition of different Jewish groups shows that Jews share a common genetic pool dating back 4,000 years, as a marker of their common ancestral origin."
That Jew/Hebrew isn't a race is a very new claim to me. What do you have to support it?
If it was a race as we contemplate race in its current definition, it would be on the government form I posted.
It isn't. It's not a race like that (nor, really, in any other way).
Yes, some Jews have a common genetic pattern.
Many don't.
Either you're talking about the religion, which is clearly not a race (as you said). Or you're talking about a group that generally shares the same religion, that descended from a few groups that lived co-located thousands of years ago. Of course, many are descended from those groups. What makes that a race?
And I didn't mention Christianity to ask if anyone doubted it existed. I mentioned Christianity to show how silly it is to consider Jews a race. If Christianity isn't a race (even though many Christians descend from a common ancestor), then Jews aren't a race.
- Technically, if you are a Christian, you probably believe you descended from Adam & Eve, sort of the ultimate common ancestor.
Finally, a comment with some specific counterpoints. I appreciate it. So, you're saying that many works just wrongly conflate concepts of a group and race to the point that there's a misconception about the existence of a Jewish race? Also, given the form, that there are only 5 races in existence?
That's pretty much what I'm saying. I think the 5 races on the form conform to my understanding of race, so I think that part is right as well.
I guess fundamentally I can't wrap my head around the idea of identifying a religious group and calling that a race. As I mention, we don't do it with any other religious group, so why Jews?
If Jewish people are disproportionately some races rather than others (and they are), wouldn't that also qualify as racial discrimination under the "disparate impact" reasoning?
I'm not sure it is though. If you have a tight nit community, and you tend to hire those you know best... In that case the filter isn't religion, it's social familiarity.
Is it discrimination based on religion? Obviously.