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Wax cylinder recordings digitized (ucsb.edu)
47 points by tintinnabula on Nov 8, 2015 | hide | past | favorite | 12 comments



Those recordings aren't bad. The mechanical cylinder recording process was reasonably good, as was the duplication process; it was mechanical playback that introduced most of the distortion, because the playback mechanism was too massive to reproduce high frequencies well.

The Library of Congress has a machine which can read scratched and broken records, by optically scanning and building a 3D model of the surface.[1] But undamaged cylinders don't need it. They can be read out with a stereo cartridge and a suitable stylus.

Edison cylinders and records are vertically recorded; the groove bottoms go up and down, not left and right. Later records (RCA Victor, etc) were horizontally recorded. Stereo records are both; the groove format is called 45-45 Westrex, with two axes, both 45 degrees from vertical. This has the nice property that mono records played on stereo players, although one channel is phase-reversed.

If you want a cylinder phonograph, they're easily available on eBay for about $500.

[1] http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1185184...


A few hundred years ago someone threw out an Edison voice recorder. You would speak into it and it would record on the wax cylinders. I brought it home and looked up its value on the Internet. I was suprised this particular model was not bringing in much money. I didn't have much room, and my girlfriend at the time talked me into throwing it out.

Before I threw it out, I took the AC/DC motor out of the device. I just couldn't throw out that beautiful little motor. I now have that motor on my desk as a paper weight. People look at it, and ask why does it have a DC switch. I don't actaually know, but my thoughts were Edison was unsure of our electrical future?


Edison had strongly held views about the superiority of DC over AC : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Currents


Very interesting

I wonder if it would be possible to enhance the reproduction by compensating for things like frequency response, wow and flutter, and perform some kind of denoising (some have a periodic noise to it which I think may be attributed to scratches or damage to one side of the cylinder)


On the old version of their website you could download the raw rip, a cleaned up version, and the settings file for whatever software they used for the audio processing. You could download the original rip and the settings and adjust them to your own taste. I haven't looked to see why those other files are no longer available.


Interesting. Checking the overview page [ http://cylinders.library.ucsb.edu/overview.php ] shows how they got the recordings.

At first, I though the recordings might have been based on the optical imaging technique outlined in this article [ http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/article/june-2015/lhc-physic... ] but it is apparently been used for a separate effort to preserve native American recordings.


I've tried to buy this domain a hundred times, but there's a guy who digitizes these here too, once a month: http://www.tinfoil.com


That design is a delightful blast from the past. tinfoil.com/tinfoil.htm especially triggers my nostalgia.

The .ram format on other pages, however, does not.


These sound great. I've not heard any cylinder recordings before. I'll fish out some of the popular music of the time.

I like old recordings: a couple of sources...

Early classical recordings available with search function

http://www.charm.rhul.ac.uk/sound/sound.html

The first few bars of this are wonderful...

https://archive.org/details/rhapblue11924


Yeah, the sound quality is much better than I would expect...


I wanted to download all of the available recordings so I built a tool to do so:

https://github.com/CraigAlbright/hotwaxresidue


This is a great project and a fascinating archive to browse in.




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