Hacker News new | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit | zrezzed's comments login

Ah yes, the Backrooms of UX hell.

With the right procedural generation and some decent flavor, that could be genuinely horrifying!


This matches my understanding, thanks. I thought I was going crazy reading other comments.


I’d bet the author does understand.

I’m fairly certain subsequent runs even with the same prompt will make selections with different entropy. Even with low temperature, there’s no reason a good enough model couldn’t start such a list with “Right” 20% of the time.


I agree it’s equivalent, and that’s a great way to think about it.

But… I wouldn’t be surprised if humans answered closer to the LLM results than 80:20. I’d actually be surprised if humans converged very close to the right result.

Would be a fun mechanical Turk experiment to run.


> Would be a fun mechanical Turk experiment to run.

Sounds like it would be a good way to determine likelihood of MTurk users being LLMs.


I think of it as "the first time anyone has not lost". Until that crash run, every game had ended with a top out.


Tetris is a deathmatch, and this is the first time Tetris died first.


> turn the door handle, and unplug the rack.

There are door handles that you cannot turn, and racks you cannot unplug: ones buried deep in the Cheyenne Mountains and hidden far away in the Siberian tundra. They are protected by unfathomably powerful systems, with the support of countless people and backed by the whims global economic power.

I say this as someone who likely agrees with you. I think the power of the real world, that of companies, and governments and militaries should decrease our concern with AGI gaining power itself.

But I don’t think it’s as obvious as pointing to the fragility of software. Our human systems are fragile too, and subject to manipulation in not-so-different a way as data centers. I think you should not be so quick to discount the voices of many smart people shouting.


Human systems. They are protected by human systems. Human beings are the ones who press the big red button.

We probably do agree. I'm not saying that this tech won't be used by bad actors. I already told my elderly relatives that if they haven't seen someone in person, they shouldn't talk on the phone.

But what I'm talking about is categorically, fundamentally, not the eschaton!


Yes, they are human indeed, but those humans cannot agree on whether the plug should or shouldn't be pulled.


Not exactly sure what the details, but there high quality, commercial products that are probably doing something like this: https://voxon.co/products/


This is a sweeping display, it moves up and down rapidly with a projector beneath it. Same idea. I saw a demo once in NYC and it blew my mind.


Sure. Most of my experience is in California, but I've found the grading differences from region to region to be just large as from out of state or international.

I climb 5.11c+ comfortably in the gym. I can barely lead a short Yosemite 5.8 outdoors; it's terrifyingly more difficult. That's a bit on the high side of a delta, but still typical.

I would say the difference is 75%+ in the scales simply not being the same. For the same grade, the holds would be far smaller, positions much more technical, often far more sustained, etc. The other ~25% is the environment is much more challenging, even with perfect weather at sea level: route finding is harder, you have to manage gear, leading is scary, etc.

I've done a few high Sierra climbs. Grades there are little softer, and my limit is probably ~5.7


For what it’s worth, there is also a wide variance in grading between different indoor gyms and different outdoor climbing areas.

Yosemite grades are notoriously hard; the most popular gym chain in California (which I love!) grades are notoriously soft. YMMV at other gyms and at other outdoor crags.

At the end of the day it’s a subjective guide, I wouldn’t get too hung up on the numbers.


There's also the factor for people who climb inside a lot that they have very inefficient movements outside.

Because the grips aren't as obvious, a lot of effort is wasted looking for placements that would be immediate indoors.


"Grips"? I guess you mean "holds" (indoors). "Placements"? That's where you place gear, not your fingers, and you don't place gear in climbing gyms. I appreciate your enthusiasm, but pretending to have knowledge of something you know nothing about is a real problem on HN (and the internet in general). Best to say nothing than make a fool of yourself – something I'm still learning.


Alternatively, they speak a different language with different terminology and are translating. I know a few climbing terms in French and they're quite different.

What would be helpful is commenting on whether their assertion is correct or not w.r.t efficiency.


It’s definitely true. The high visibility of holds in the gym makes it easy to move quickly, even your first time up it, which saves a lot of energy.

Outside, the good and bad holds are probably the same color, and may be oriented in weird ways that require some feeling around to find the best way to grip them or stand on them.

Over time, climbers outside can learn to read the rock and make very good guesses about how to reach or step for the next usable hold. But it takes time to learn, and is somewhat location-specific because of the widely varying geology of climbable rock.


> Best to say nothing than make a fool of yourself – something I'm still learning.

I love seeing people plumb the depths of irony this way.


This difference is mostly about the rock and the technique. Granite is very different from limestone and Yosemite cracks are very very different from a gym. (And Tuolumne domes are yet another thing.) If you spent a summer climbing in Yosemite you'd get comfortable with the style and the grades and they'd make more sense to you.

Conversely if you took a trip to Smith Rock or Owens River Gorge you'd get a much closer correspondence between gym ratings and rock ratings.


If you care about strongly about privacy... choose your email provider accordingly.

If Outlook is your company's email provider... the third parties are the concern of your IT department.

If you're not hit by one of those two conditions... why are you using Outlook? This feels like unwarranted outrage bait.


Regardless of the reason, calling out such behaviour is always good, more so since many millions use outlook still.


Where is the option to make sure nobody I email uses outlook?


Check the X-Mailer header in their emails. It will say Outlook.


You must be new here - "unwarranted outrage bait" describes at least 50% of HN homepage.


> If Outlook is your company's email provider... the third parties are the concern of your IT department.

Still your concern given whatever information is shared about you and your job to the 766 third parties.


This. There's a choice regarding data identifying you that's made by someone who's not you.

I'm also thinking of 2FA things many corporations mandate, requiring the use of a phone number, application or both, without them handing you a work phone. Under no circumstances will I give my personal phone number to Google or Microsoft because I don't want them to link my work and personal stuff. Right now, I'm locked out of a corporate account at Google due to such refusal.


hotmail used to be a popular choice. it can be hard to completely switch email providers. Many websites still don't support updating email.


Just pay for one which sees you as a client, not eyeballs. Enable pop3 or redirect on old account. Change as many web sites as possible.

Bonus point if you get your own domain. Bitwarden and others allow creation of individual users on the fly on your domain, while a catchall on the email server collects this.


none of what you listed is 'free'. it requires time to create a new email, configuration, and learning how to use new tools.


> Dismissing a multi-millenia multi-cultural fundamental norm as "indoctrination" severely downplays the collective learning of uncountable generations.

I agree in this case, but only because I think marriage is an institution that we’ve learned needs (sometimes strong) active endorsement and it’s pro-social.

My view is that cultural norms are at worst tyrannical and at best the essence of being human.

> Social iconoclasts dismiss organized religion, marriage, sexual norms, social duty, gender roles, and cultural traditions.

This is just true. But this is all of us: we all have a relationship with society around us and dismiss parts of it. As we should.


Consider applying for YC's Spring batch! Applications are open till Feb 11.

Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: