"Reduce, Reuse, Recycle" -- in the order of priority. Why select Recycle when alternatives are simple and viable?
As the largest hotel soap recycler in the world, Clean the World has helped lead to a 60%+ reduction in the number of children who die from diarrheal diseases each year.
Wow, casually overclaiming their ~0% impact. No doubt these folks are getting all the grants and we are discussing them here.
Care to think about the vaccinated health workers who get breakthrough infection and transfer it to their unvaccinated daughter who had to get a lung transplant? (real story from US)
Your argument is that a vaccinated person with a breakthrough infection can not give another vaccinated person a breakthrough infection?
Obviously your anecdotal story is tragic. No denying. But the ends don't justify the means.
Most of these health workers have been on the frontlines since the beginning before the vaccine. Many already aquired COVID and have some natural immunity.
I leave you with this:
How about the story of the girl who died because there weren't enough healthcare workers to treat her in time because they were all fired?
More health workers are fed up with constant stream of unvaccinated patients in hospitals (also a big overlap between assholes and unvaccinated in USA where vaccines are available), so they would rather want everyone to be vaccinated. Ask your doctor friends and relatives.
What would your imaginary girl do when all ICU beds are occupied by the unvaccinated?
You're talking about the unvaccinated masses of patients.
The NY mandate was for nurses who worked throughout the pandemic.
We could debate the merits of mandated vaccination for the general public but this mandate is putting a squeeze on healthcare workers which will likely contribute to a worker shortage that will not be without it's own collateral damage.
At Houston Methodist, where 150 employees left from a work force of about 26,000 people, the hospital said that there had been little lasting effect on its ability to hire people. And when Texas was hit with rising numbers of Covid cases over the summer, the hospital found that fewer of its workers were out sick.
“The mandate has not only protected our employees, but kept more of them at work during the pandemic,” a hospital spokeswoman said in an email.
ChristianaCare, a hospital group based in Wilmington, Del., said on Monday that it had fired 150 employees for not complying with its vaccine mandate. But the group emphasized that over the last month it had hired more than 200 employees, many of whom are more comfortable working where they knew their colleagues were vaccinated.
Not such great news for the hopeful mothers planning or already carrying a child who wouldn't wish their unborn offspring as a medical experiment. These are real people with real concerns. Not crazies who think there is a microchip in the shot. Studies on long term fetal impact are impossible with the mandated timeline.
If a woman has a pro-choice right to abortion, then it seems a pro-choice right to a medical injection is in order. The two points are logically inconsistent with each other.
Sincerly,
~ A Covid Vaccinated Citizen
PS. See below [1] for reasons why someone might question a fast developed medication.
You have a pro choice right to not get injected. You don’t have a pro choice right to not get the vaccine, not get tested, and move about freely amongst others because you are now violating others bodily autonomy en masse by spreading disease.
If you aren’t fine with someone walking around firing a gun randomly in the air because the bullets “might” land on someone then I don’t see how you can be fine with someone walking around during a pandemic with no sorts of proof that they aren’t spreading the disease at a high rate.
Both behaviors are a not guaranteed to cause harm, but the likelyhood has risen high enough to warrant preventative measures
I was under the mistaken belief that vaccinated people could still spread the virus. Thanks for the correction. Which begs the question. Who are we protecting? That group has chose to not be protected. The argument is circular.
Disclaimer: I support vaccination. I do not support authoritarian mandates in this case.
Vaccinated people can still spread the virus _if they have a breakthrough infection_.
Since they have a radically lower incident of infection compared to the non vaccinated, the rate of transfer of Covid for the two groups is in no way equivalent.
Thanks for the opportunity to correct your misunderstanding.
Disclaimer: I do support people’s right’s to make decisions for themselves. I do not support people foisting their negative externalities on the rest of society under the guise that their actions have no side effects.
A "breakthrough infection" is still an infection, No? It seems that sophisticated semantics are being used in media to veil underlying weakness in the arguments and premises and move the goal post.
> That group has chose to not be protected.
The side effects of people choosing not to get vaccinated is that they will get sicker because they choose not to get vaccinated, Yes?
It is not my business if they self-risk getting sicker, or if they consume to much sugar, or don't exercise enough, or sky-dive.
Surely you can see how this narrative becomes a circular self contradictory "double bind" [1] that could go on forever. It's a very fascinating way to indirectly exert control [2].
[1] A double bind is a dilemma in communication in which an individual (or group) receives two or more reciprocally conflicting messages. In some scenarios (e.g. within families or romantic relationships) this can be emotionally distressing, creating a situation in which a successful response to one message results in a failed response to the other (and vice versa), such that the person responding will automatically be perceived as in the wrong, no matter how they response. This double bind prevents the person from either resolving the underlying dilemma or opting out of the situation. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_bind)
[2] Double binds are often utilized as a form of control without open coercion—the use of confusion makes them difficult both to respond to and to resist. ((https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_bind)
>A "breakthrough infection" is still an infection, No? It seems that sophisticated semantics are being used in media to veil underlying weakness in the arguments and premises and move the goal post.
What is the per capita rate of infection between the unvaccinated population and the vaccinated population? I feel like you may be unaware that the while the vaccinated and unvaccinated population spread Covid at the same rate when they are infected, you seem to not understand that the vaccinated population gets infected at a far lower rate than the unvaccinated population.
>The side effects of people choosing not to get vaccinated is that they will get sicker because they choose not to get vaccinated, Yes?
>It is not my business if they self-risk getting sicker, or if they consume to much sugar, or don't exercise enough, or sky-dive.
Ah, ok. Maybe we need to make sure we have a baseline understanding of reality.
Do you, or do you not believe in the concept of negative externalities?
For example, if I walk into public and lay out a pile of radioactive waste do you believe that
A:This is not an acceptable action in society because it hurts others
B: It is acceptable because no one has been hurt yet and we cannot constrain someone's actions until they have damaged someone else in a provable manner
C:a third option I have not thought of, as I am open to new kinds of thinking.
But! If choosing to prevent one negative externality causes another negative externality, well you're proper fucked now! Hence the "double bind".
Now in regards to your proposed question. Radioactive waste is a totally different issue. So that's a hard A!
Now if the question is:
If an unvaccinated person walks into a public space filled with other vaccinated and unvaccinated people all of which made their own personal choice based on their personal circumstances.
C.) Well that's just life right? Freedom is inherently risky. Life for that matter.
People die needlessly because they aren't treated in hospitals because the hospitals are too full with people with covid. The ends justify the means. Vaccination mandates are nothing new and covid justifies it so that life can go on again. We are not only throwing people under the bus who are horribly misinformed (imo misinformation is a euphemism) but also those who are immunocompromised and those I talked about earlier who can't get treatment for anything else.
History shows that surveillance, oppression, and the targets of paranoia rarely limited to outsiders. ... The folks in power always seem to turn on their own too.
Definitely, "Neths" spread their engineering across many continents. However, their engineering practices are now considered a prime reason behind the environment catastrophe that many cities like New Orleans are facing.
They are not. The prima reason that many cities like N. O. are failing is poor engineering practices. Dutch companies even offered free consulting after Katrina, which was refused by the Americans. Now, many poorer places cannot afford the measures that are taken in the Netherlands (if you ever live in Amsterdam and are annoyed with your watership bill, be happy that it is used to fund your continued dry feet!). Americans however seem to not want to pay for it, and seem to not want to understand what sustainable watermanagement and new land develooment is like.
Hurricanes are bad, but they don't need to be Katrina-bad.
Please feel free to cite some sources or give details.
Engineering solutions rarely cause climate change. I'll grant you that enough concrete pouring might be nasty but I doubt a very small country in Europe, next door to Germany is responsible for all of it.
"Banned" in India. In countries like India, most people are using Android and a large number are using third party app stores or installing APKs. So market presence will stay. Monetization will be impossible, sure, but India is not really profitable anyways.
I've been to a developing country where I suspect split between play store and bluetooth APK sharing is about 50/50. Most phones have APK sharing application installed at the point of purchase and some people aren't even signed-in on the Play store, despite using the internet and WhatsApp.
As an Indian who is around many non-tech oriented Android users, I am not sure about a large number of people using third-party stores. It will be interesting to see a survey or study about it.
Another thing is that with such bans, all major ISPs and network carriers are instructed to block the traffic to the related domains, so the app won't work anyway unless they roll out with a lot of changes.
