I don't think there is a killer use case for 5G yet, but I don't mind. I think the performance improvements alone are worth it. It's hard to predict the future, and while often there are points of diminishing returns in technology (which maybe Apple is experiencing right now) I'm personally not sure we are there yet in terms of speeds and availability of computing power for cellular networks.
You don't have to use a distro. There are well tested puppet modules, which you could make into your own "distro", as well as openstack-ansible and kolla, and openstack-helm which uses helm to deploy openstack. There is also StarlingX. There is no kubeadm like system however, though I'm not sure how many people will really use kubeadm in prod.
Is it complex? Yes. Is it more complex than k8s? Probably. However, are there multiple open source distros outside of RDO (which is not actually a distro and is instead packaging--see tripleo for a distro like solution based on RDO). MaaS is not an OpenStack distro; it's a way to manage baremetal nodes that OpenStack is then deployed onto using other Canonical related tools. That said, selecting a way to deploy and manage openstack is complex, but the same with k8s.
True. My only experience is with VMware OpenStack, and my quick googling didn't turn up much info. I think Kubernetes will fall to the same fate as OpenStack is sliding into. Growing complexity with promises of the world. Time will tell.
You seem to know more than I do, so I got to ask. Why does openstack-helm exist? Why would anyone want to deploy OpenStack on top of kubernetes? Is it so you can have the OpenStack API run in Kubernetes that manages physical boxes?
Because the OpenStack control plane is made up of many (some required, some optional) services that are basically Python daemons. It makes sense to run them in containers and manage their life cycle...which means it makes perfect sense (to me, and others) to run openstack as an application managed by k8s.
One of the issues with Openstack is managing the services required to run it. I imagine that helm
could be used to make it easier to run these services in kubernetes.
True, but that adds another layer of complexity to an already complex system. If I'm using the ansible module, that's complex enough. Throwing in management of Kubernetes and the additional cruft containers adds- it seems like it's a lot of hassle for little gain.
I see this argument relatively frequently. "Why use Kubernetes when I can accomplish X with [puppet|chef|ansible]".
The answer is that k8s offers something fundamentally different and until the person posing the question gets that distinction, the argument is relatively pointless.
I'm not just bowing behind the argument that "you just don't get it... man". Let me point out that you're right. You can manage the openstack control plane perfectly well with your configuration management tool of choice and if you have that process really dialed, then you'll have a difficult time improving upon it with something like k8s.
I think they are quite different solutions, and each benefits from the other. Further, they also tend to run into the same concerns at the about the same time in their life time, eg. concerns around complexity.
I agree, I'm not sure the virtual kubelet concept is a great idea overall. It sounds good on the surface, but most of the time these kind of abstractions do more harm then good, as far as I'm concerned. But, I could be wrong. :)
I think it's easy to dismiss Toronto, but the quality of life items you listed are absolutely correct, as far as I'm concerned. If only housing weren't so expensive and we had a better transit system.
Quality of life is low in Toronto IMHO. It's impossible to find a decent apartment to rent for most: not necessarily because rents are crazy high (2k/mo for a 1BR poorly built condo anyone?) but because landlords are so picky that if you don't offer more than the asking rent include a personal letter, and are luckier than the other 50 applicants, you'll never get a place to live in. The city is also overly crowded and polluted. Traffic is beyond ridiculous, cycling is a nightmare (most dangerous city to cycle in North America). People here are obsessed with money and with living to work. There aren't that many parks and green spaces but a lot of concrete, noise and pollution. A significant number of employers demand that you incorporate so they can "hire" you as a freelancer rather than an employee, and so that the tax fallout of being reclassified as an employee is all on you (because you incorporated.) Overtime is rampant, and most of my colleagues are happy to oblige. Really, Toronto is not a nice place to live. It's an interesting experience because of how diverse it is (I've never seen so many people from so many countries, and I've lived abroad a lot!), but don't come here for quality of life or to make a good living.
A previous poster made the point of not having a major top tier tech firm with an HQ here as well. It's an interesting point I haven't thought of. I know MS is building a new big office. Google is planning a pretty large build via sidewalk labs. I need to do some research.
MS is not creating a new office. They are moving their head quarters from suburbs (Mississauga) to Downtown Toronto. They do plan to increase number of jobs from previous location though.
I agree with everything you've said, and that first sentence is a killer, but I don't quite get the "picked apart by the province" part. Could you expand on that a bit?
Ontario PM Doug Ford is getting revenge on Toronto municpal government. There's a little bad blood with his brother and them. A little is an understatement.
Imagine 40 or so co-workers cheering behind your back that your brother died of cancer. I hope this gives a good perspective as to how he may be feeling.
Thanks. I agree, there is some kind of vendetta. However, messing with Toronto's economy could have disastrous effects. I guess we'll see how it plays out. :)
Sorry, I didn't mean to connect the economy with what Doug Ford's government is doing, but his/their actions will ultimately hurt the economy too, it's just not clear yet. What was I alluding to was the decimation of city council and uploading of the TTC to the province. I'm sure there will be more nonsense to come.
I think Calgary is a good choice for a place to live in Canada.
However, I don't agree that the meetups in Toronto show legacy technology thinking. I just went to a meetup at Shopify on Istio. Just Istio. Google and Microsoft have big presences. Shopify is a huge company on the cutting edge of tech. And there are tons of smaller startups that are doing great work, pushing the boundaries. There is also a lot of AI work going on as well. I don't completely get Blockchain, but Toronto has gone crazy for it.
I would say this comment is accurate. I just moved to Toronto. The cost of housing is obnoxious and makes the overall cost of living extremely high, and unfortunately salaries don't make up for it. There is no doubt about that. And of course the traffic is horrible.
However, Toronto has everything Canada has to offer in terms of big city life. It's got the hustle of a global big city. It's has amazing food and entertainment. If you live in Canada and like big, global cities, then there's not much choice.
I have to agree. Even if you don't speak French, there is less emphasis on money wealth, more on everyday important factors, and the city just has more history and is more relaxed without the money imperative injecting itself in everything. And there is a decent, diverse tech scene too, though language will be factor if you want to work locally.
I personally don't find the traffic that bad as someone who commutes from Mississauga to Toronto every day, but maybe I'm conditioned to think it's normal. What city are you comparing it to?
