I work on Yahoo Mail for the web and appreciate your comment! Our team is currently hiring for several engineering roles and we’re investing a lot into the product this year.
Awesome! As someone who uses a lot of ProPresenter this looks really impressive.
The calendar view looks like a useful innovation.
Thanks for sharing it! I use Looks, NDI, and Resi in ProPresenter most of the time yet I am eager to see where this project goes for all kinds of new productions.
Yes. I made the mistake of setting up Google Home with my “Google Apps for Your Domain” account I used since around 2009. Now I’m married and can’t add my wife. It’s been years and no changes: it still doesn’t work.
My wife texts me each time she wants me to make the robot vacuum cleaner to do it's thing since you can't have multiple accounts and the backend bugs out when you switch devices to login from.
My partner and I have found that us logging into multiple devices with the same account is much more supported. We have a shared password manager and email router setup. So us@domain.net gets forwarded to both our gmail accounts. I have the "send as" feature setup for us@domain.net as well.
So we effectively have a custom domain in gmail, for sending and receiving.
As far as the internet is concerned we are one entity with multiple devices.
Full disclosure: I work on Yahoo Mail, but I’m not speaking for my employer.
Have you checked out CFL? If users mark sender’s messages as spam, it can impact that sender’s deliverability. The CFL can help avoid these recipients by understanding spam reports.
The domain in question is exclusively used for personal email by myself and close friends/family I trust. I would be surprised if a single message ever sent from this domain has been manually marked as spam on Yahoo.
Im guessing you run your own mail server more for fun? It’s the one service I use frequently but I’ve never tried to self host - its always seemed like a lot of pain.
I’m sorry the service didn’t meet your expectation, but for others here who are curious, there are some options for keeping email storage active! These days there are paid Yahoo Mail accounts available which retain email for as long as you have the subscription active. (Or you can log in once a year with a free account.)
You can also use a IMAP app to save a local archive of all of your email. This works for all accounts, even free ones! More: https://help.yahoo.com/kb/SLN5033.html
What totally enraged me about this is that the policy was apparently introduced long after I created my account. At some point when I switched to Gmail, I set up yahoo to forward to it. This worked for years. Then this policy kicked in and from one day to the other, the Yahoo account was deleted. No warning was sent to the Gmail address beforehand. There wasn't much going on on the Yahoo account anyways, so I only noticed it much later. I have an old YouTube account that I signed up to with that yahoo address that I can't access anymore, and not do the recovery process because email.
Easy, just recreate that Yahoo account right? Wrong, to suck even more, yahoo now only offers new Email accounts on their .com domain. Mine wasn't on the .com domain. But existing accounts on the other domains still work fine, so they need to keep up that infra anyways.
>Full disclosure: I work on Yahoo Mail, but I’m not speaking for my employer.
I've worked for large corporations before, and I have had training g that explicitly told me not to "go on social media, disclose my affiliation, and then run text support".
I'm not going to tell you how to post on HN - cause I love hearing true tech stories, but you might consider caution
One of the things that makes HN special is getting frontline insights like what OP gave. Almost any thread with a major issue/outage will have such a comment. Most of the time, it will come directly from a CTO/CEO.
I work for a large corp and I’ve explicitly OKed it with the social media team that it’s OK for me to engage with customer complaints online to get them resolved if necessary. There are a few guidelines, but they’re easy to meet.
In my experience, this cuts two ways. Some companies hire what about to PR flacks to respond to complaints with bland, vague apologies and company hype. The good companies have real support people tasked specifically with engaging on social media to help users fix issues, especially common ones. As you might expect, I tend to prefer to do business with the latter, and I suspect I'm not alone.
Gmail definitely does not enact this policy. Me and a friend managed to log into a shared gmail account recently we had from high school, to which no one logged in for more than a decade.
If costs got too much, they could easily take all very old emails and archive them - for example onto tape and cut down to one or even no online replicas.
Then add a button that says "Some emails and attachments older than 1 year are archived. Click here to retrieve them (takes 24 hours)"
Unrelated question, but since you work on Yahoo Mail...
What's its association with AT&T? My parents have an old AT&T email they want to keep after leaving AT&T. AT&T claims it's possible (which I find shocking), but it's not really clear who actually runs the account. I think it was originally sold as AT&T/Yahoo, so was it Yahoo mail under the hood? Is that still the case?
I don’t know the policy for email account retention for AT&T Internet email, so I can’t speak to anything about it…
But for your last two questions: Yes, it’s Yahoo Mail under the hood! That is still the case. Yahoo provides email hosting services for AT&T Internet users under a contract between Yahoo and AT&T.
However, all customer support for AT&T Yahoo Mail is handled by AT&T, so the best resource for help for those accounts would be AT&T customer service or their help site: https://www.att.com/support/topic/email-support/
Heck, I login daily (my Yahoo Mail is my "this online shop needs an email address" address) and a few years ago I checked, it's lost my emails before the year 2000. (Yeah I got the address when Yahoo started offering them, because I thought it'd be cool to have an @yahoo.com address...). Of course back then I actually had real emails, from high school friends and family members, which are all gone now. Great job your team is doing!
I use getmail (similar to fetchmail) to routinely archive (i.e., sync without deleting + reindex) all of my emails from various free accounts, just in case. It can save to mbox, Maildir, mh, and other formats that are easy to import to any MUA/LDA. This is worth doing for all e-mail, and I have a patch to make it support OAuth. I don’t think it supports JMAP, but it’s great for IMAP, Gmail, and Yahoo mail and deduplicates messages by ID and content, etc. while preserving tags/mailboxes (if saved as Maildir). I highly recommend running something like that in a cron job somewhere once a week to sync locally with some sanity checks (e.g., did it save any new messages? did the folder grow? Etc.)
I also use it to save Spam/Junk folders, which then comes in very handy to train my local spam classifier for my self-hosted mail servers with lots of data. (Over 3TB of spam saved so far and about 20GB of ham.)
Gmail’s spam filter has had a higher false positive rate than usual for me lately, so I have a little report emailed to me once a week of likely ham in my gmail spam box, which has found at least 3 messages per week that I missed.
I use a mix of google email labels, apps script, spreadsheet & drive folder to download every email (older than 15 days, so that I have enough time to delete it) as .eml files in Google drive folder, which by turn downloads it to my local disk.
The spreadsheet keeps log of each msg in a thread.
Labels marks the downloaded emails.
Apps script run on a trigger & does the heavy lifting of actually downloading the .eml.
