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It’s just the clarity of thought that our lives will be in a cycle of pestilence and sickness until we die. Every 2020 fear of end of society will manifest in the next 6 months.

There really is not a lot to look forward to.


This is manifesting now with fiat vs Bitcoin. Fiat has a negative real interest rate. Bitcoin is for saving, and has a floating rate for exchange.

We don’t need the control of a CBDC. Bitcoin cannot be inflated or controlled by a State. The hardest money is one that cannot manipulated at a whim by elected or unelected humans.


No, stop staying this foolishness. In dense cities like NY, I would say at least 20% of the city is infected right now. Workers. People on the street. The subway is disgusting, there is at least one infected person per carriage coughing over everyone and refusing to wear a mask. You walk around and hear that infected lung with light mucus cough. It’s everywhere. Unless we get proper proper sterilizing vaccines, the world is going to be in a cycle of getting sick from it every few months. This is serious and infectious like nothing on earth. I am tired of the selfishness of people having an attitude that it’s not a big deal.

At this point the vax we had is for something that doesn’t exist anymore. There is no long lasting natural resistance. We need new tech and widespread adoption. If people are going to go out symptomatic and infected and spread an r=17.5 virus, and there really is nothing we can do to stop them, we need much better tech to save us.


Immunity is likely long term. There was evidence of a bone marrow compartment formation after primary infection in the early days of the pandemic, maybe even as early as 2020. It continues to be supported.

Latest: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle...

"This work provides further evidence of sustained immune response in children up to 1 year after primary SARS-CoV-2 infection."

More details on the mechanism: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34030176 "Overall, our results indicate that mild infection with SARS-CoV-2 induces robust antigen-specific, long-lived humoral immune memory in humans."

Follow the science. There is no need to panic.


Yes, however BA.5 is another beast. Post infection immunity lasts in the order of weeks it would appear.


Immunity to infection ≠ immunity to serious disease. The epitopes that drive long-lived memory are fairly well conserved.


I just wanna go out in public and not get sick. It’s happened too many times now.


If the vaccine isn't stopping you from getting sick now, why would it stop you from getting sick if more people took it? Does not compute.


Were you not getting sick before Covid? Lucky you, I got colds a couple times a year, even more often after my kids started attending school. Covid is just another cold for me, why should I care?


No not really. And I am childfree forever so I don’t have to put up with the little pestilence beasts and their Petri dish school crud. Very lucky!

Some occasional subway crud but when you catch COVID over and over again you lose weeks of your life. Also Because colds don’t cause long term damage, blood clots, etc.

This isn’t another cold. It could be mild, or you could wind up with complications from blood clots and inflammation for the next year, more…

That losing your taste? That’s brain damage, buster. Yeah just a cold…


Because the vaccines still slow transmission and more people getting vaccinated would slow transmission even more, lowering one's risk of getting infected as well as the severity of the infection.


If more people took the same vaccine, sure. But GP said we need new tech. The universal vaccine in the article, for example.


Well maybe try moving out of such a densely packed disease trap? Out here in the exurbs I don’t know a single person for whom covid has been any more inconvenient than a cold (since vaccines became widely available).

I’m no anti-vaxxer. I had it, got vaxxed anyway just in case, wore my masks, etc. Like most people, I’m done now. If you want to go live in a bubble be my guest.


That implies we should simply empty the world's cities which I hope you recognize is not a serious or pragmatic alternative to simply vaccinating more.

We could just vaccinate our way until Covid transmission rates fall enough that we don't have to worry about it. Congrats on living in the middle of nowhere, but that's a bubble of a different sort.


I don’t not have that luxury to move. It’s not about me in a bubble.

It’s about humanity and a painful existence of pestilence. You might be “done” with it. Humanity is not. Virus is not.

A bubble is ignoring one of the greatest threats to our civilization today.


> In dense cities like NY, I would say at least 20% of the city is infected right now. Workers. People on the street. The subway is disgusting, there is at least one infected person per carriage coughing over everyone and refusing to wear a mask. You walk around and hear that infected lung with light mucus cough. It’s everywhere.

If you are to insult people's intelligence then don't use your own germophobic anecdotal perception of the world as a credible epidemiological source.

> Unless we get proper proper sterilizing vaccines, the world is going to be in a cycle of getting sick from it every few months.

I get it that you're not familiar with most respiratory viruses.

> I am tired of the selfishness of people having an attitude that it’s not a big deal.

Imposing a medical procedure for your own safety is also a form of selfishness that lead to abuse in the recent past (see Jacobson v. Massachusetts and how it lead to Buck v. Bell)

> There is no long lasting natural resistance. We need new tech and widespread adoption.

Coronaviruses are know to change very quickly and this is why they escape immunity. Tech is not magic and won't change that fact of life. A universal coronavirus vaccine is a pipe dream.


Bob Wachter, who is the chair of medicine at UCSF periodically publishes the UCSF asymptomatic test positive rate. Everyone who is admitted to UCSF takes a Covid test. This rate is the fraction of people who are admitted without Covid symptoms, that test positive. IMO this is a very good number because it's a somewhat randomized population that is being tested in a controlled way, without too much bias.

The latest number he posted, from July 3, was 6.5% [1]. This means roughly 1 in 15 people you come across in San Francisco is positive for Covid. If you're on a crowded bus or train car, there will be multiple Covid positive people on it, and likely one that is contagious. If you regularly take transit and aren't wearing a really excellent mask, it's pretty likely you'll catch it over the course of a month or two.

Back to anecdotes, about 70% of the people I know that fit this description and ride transit in a big city without a mask have gotten symptomatic Covid in the past 3 months. All of them boosted btw.

[1] https://twitter.com/Bob_Wachter/status/1543780608744165376


And that’s asymptomatic! I caught 3 trains today, and in all of them someone was visibility sick and didn’t care. Someone was having a coughing fit on the platform, no mask of course. I went shopping, and several of the staff and shoppers were also visibility sick. One shopper started coughing in front of everyone and they completely ignored it and carried on. At a fast food restaurant (outdoors) there were at least 2 tables with people visibly sick eating their food.

Really, going out in public is quite a risk these days. The sheer number of infected all around you is quite troubling.


I’d say virusaphobic. I have been sicker from others in the last year than in 2020 and earlier. I’ve lost a lot of life this past year.

So what are we going do? Big city life is going to be unbelievably poor unless we solve this problem.


Never liked the one way privacy of it, and it’s not a coin. It also adds nothing you don’t get already in the underlying cryptocurrencies.

It’s a payment protocol for arbitrary assets. You can pay in Bitcoin via Taler. I don’t think it will gain traction. The best payment protocol for Bitcoin today is Lightning Network, and is as open, and more sophisticated than GNU Taler ever was.

Yes, I ack that BTC is pubkeyhash and scripthash pseudononymous are not private.


High Yield? No way. Bitcoin can only be mined. It returns nothing. It’s a boring rock that can be transmitted over a communication channel. You have the same number of Bitcoins today, next half, next generation (provided you don’t lend or sell them).

Other PoS shitcoins could be considered high yield, in fact the yield is algorithmic and is independent of market value (which is an odd concept, as other reg high yield products will return capital explicitly to satisfy a yield.)

Taken further, yield may well be the “scam”. Bitcoin provides none of this.


2020 post. Good write up on technical issue that demonstrated tooling and process to identify a superfluous regex compile in the base framework. Quick patch and suddenly it’s faster for everyone! Neat!


Cool. I trust the engineers at Mozilla far more than the politicians in EU.

You can’t mandate or legislate security from the parliament. It takes hard work, skill, education, experience, luck and visibility.

In my world, the law is just someone’s opinion. Security deals with systems, math, information, physics. I want the EU far far away from my root CA store pls.


nobody prevents you to use mozilla certificates, you do what you want with your love and dependency on mozilla

i want americans to mind their own business instead of trying to lobby in both EU/Asia by impersonating identities like with this .eu domain, what a trustworthy behavior btw ;)

> Cool. I trust the engineers at Mozilla far more than the politicians in EU.

> You can’t mandate or legislate security from the parliament. It takes hard work, skill, education, experience, luck and visibility.

nobody said nor want that, you should read the original articles instead of this propagandized website


I think you will find many global corps are actually multinational and have presence and thus effected by braindead laws coming out of the EU. We live on a shared internet plane, we cannot let EU do stupid things that break the internet. You may wish to look at restrictive internet legislation by countries is an attack on the world. It’s not US corp vs EU politicians. It’s EU politicians against earth internet users.


Actually, it very much is EU politicians against US politicians thanks to the CLOUD act. US already has the power to force Mozilla to include whatever root certs they want.


People tend to think that the CLOUD Act did a lot more than it actually did. The CLOUD Act did two things.

First, it amended the Stored Communications Act (SCA) to clarify whether requests issued under the SCA were more like warrants or more like subpoenas.

Roughly, a warrant authorizes law enforcement to do something they normally would not be allowed to do, like search a place or seize something.

A subpoena authorizes law enforcement to make someone else do something, like make someone to give law enforcement a copy of a document that is under that person's control.

This didn't expand any US government powers. It just clarified what existing power applied when asking for data. In particular it had nothing to do with asserting US jurisdiction extraterritorially, which is what a lot of people seem to think it was about.

Second, it made it easier for the US to enter into agreements to share data with foreign governments. Previously this had to be done through something called a "mutual legal assistance treaty" (MLAT). The CLOUD Act authorized the executive branch to make data sharing agreements, which is much more streamlined but also has much less oversight.

There was nothing really controversial about the first part. Pretty much every major country claims similar powers to require people in their country to turn over documents to the government as part of criminal investigations.

The controversial part was the second part. Many felt that it would allow the government to easily enter into data sharing agreements to get data without needing a subpoena or warrant, thus bypassing the courts and so effectively stripping away Fourth Amendment rights.


Thanks a lot for the in-depth explanation. I admit, I didn't know a lot of the context, in particular the clarification between warrant and subpoena.

> This didn't expand any US government powers. It just clarified what existing power applied when asking for data. In particular it had nothing to do with asserting US jurisdiction extraterritorially, which is what a lot of people seem to think it was about.

Not a lawyer or expert in that area, but my understanding why specifically people in the EU were so upset about it (including ECJ judges apparently) was that this effectively did extend US jurisdiction - simply by virtue of US companies being active internationally, specifically tech companies.

The overwhelming part of all internet activities in the EU are facillitated through US companies (or local subsidiaries of them). This includes a large part of intra-EU activities. So if one german citizen writes another german citizen an email, chances are very high that email will be stored on a Google server - or at least on a server of a german subsidiary of Google. This makes the CLOUD act relevant to EU citizens, even though technically, the obligations of Google under it are a purely domestic affair.

So if the CLOUD act gives US agencies the power to subpoena Google to retrieve data about non-US citizens - while Google is effectively running large part of the internet for other countries - then that does feel a bit like extension of jurisdiction.

(It technically isn't, and to my knowledge the ECJ wasn't arguing that it was. The ECJ simply argued that Google's obligations under the CLOUD act are incompatible with Google's obligations under the GDPR. So something's got to give)

Going back to the beginning of the thread, I have to admit though, I have no idea if the CLOUD act would give agencies the power to force inclusion of certain root certs. So I take that back.


It can help to understand the jurisdiction issues to think of an analogous situation but with paper records instead of digital records. Consider this scenario.

I have a company that operates a business in the US. I keep records on paper in filing cabinets at my office.

I decide to archive some records offsite. I do this by engaging the services of a storage firm that operates a vault in an old mine in a remote area. To store records I ship them in a box to the storage firm, which slaps a barcode on the box, assigns it to an open spot in the vault, and puts the box there.

If I ever need the records I ask the storage firm for them, they look them up in their records to find where they are in the vault, retrieves the box, and ships it to me.

I later want to archive more records, and I do the same thing except this time I use a different storage company. It works the same way--they store boxes I send them, and ship those back to me upon request.

The first storage company is somewhere in the US. The second storage company is Mexico.

Suppose the US government wants to look at some of my records. If they want to get warrants to seize those records themselves by going to where they are stored (my office and/or the storage vaults) a US court would have jurisdiction to issue such warrants for the records in my office and the records in the storage vault in the US. For the records in the vault in Mexico they would have to go through whatever Mexico's procedure is to get the records seized.

They need to go through Mexico for the Mexican vault because they are trying to force someone in Mexico to do something they have no obligation to do. They want someone to go into the vault and seize the records.

If, one the other hand, the government gets a subpoena asking me for the records which in order to comply with I'll have to ask the vaults to send me the records, no one in Mexico is being asked to do anything other than provide the service to me that I hired them to do. The Mexican government does not need to be involved, and has no interest in being involved because what is happening in Mexico is just normal operation of the storage service there.

The situation with Microsoft that prompted the CLOUD Act was similar, although the records weren't archived records. Microsoft in the US operated an email service. They stored the email at various cloud providers around the world. One of those cloud providers was an EU company that was owned by Microsoft but separate from the Microsoft owned US company that provided the email service. The US Microsoft email company's relation with the EU Microsoft cloud storage company was simply that of a customer that bought their storage service.

The US Microsoft email company had the right to retrieve any data it stored at that cloud service (or at any other cloud service it used) at any time. Nobody at the cloud storage company would have to be involve or even aware when this happened. To them it is all just customers using the storage APIs to access the customer's data.

There are GDPR issues, but note those same GDPR issues would also apply if the US company was storing data about EU people in cloud storage that was entirely in the US (their own or at a separate US cloud provider whose servers were in the US).


voted by europeans

nobody voted for mozilla, they hold their position by selling their userbase to google

if that's what you want to trust, be it, trust them

we should have alternatives for the people who do not want to trust such entity doing shady things like political interference in foreign countries

> We live on a shared internet plane

another reason to not trust an entity that is selling its userbase to the most evil company on the internet and is also selling ads to people's browser ;)

your avidity made you loose all sight, you also lack critical thinking


Avidity is a strange word, I don’t think I have ever seen it before. It exists in English, but it is a French loan word. I believe your perspective is one of someone in France. I am personally located in NY, but cannot vote. I have not been able to vote for over a decade in multiple countries now, and don’t really believe in it anymore.

I don’t really care if every EU citizen voted to make math illegal. While there is sanity elsewhere, and an internet exists, we can route around the madness.


I am not French, but i read a lot, i like nice words and their etymology

Nourishing yourself from multiple cultures would help you a lot developing critical thinking

You are stuck defending mozilla no matter what, fanboyism gets you nowhere, it makes you blind

> I don’t really care if every EU citizen voted to make math illegal. While there is sanity elsewhere, and an internet exists, we can route around the madness.

You'll remember that when times will make you want to go back in time and hope for an alternative path


Buddy, you have accused me of lacking critical thinking twice. I believe you are projecting. Critical thinkers generally don’t reduce an argument to “evil corps”.

I’m intrigued by why I would want to go back in time?


I never said i am a critical thinker, i said you lack critical thinking

Maybe i perceive wrong, maybe you perceive right, you tell me

> I’m intrigued by why I would want to go back in time?

Read between the lines, here it's me projecting, i vow apocalypse and destruction


After seeing The last human - Kurzgesagt https://youtu.be/LEENEFaVUzU and realizing that for all Of human history we have though it was the end - and actually it’s more likely that as the first few billion humans we will be the source of fascination for many generations to come. Our digital record will be preserved and relentlessly studied. Maybe our thread here will be a footnote in a hologram in a few millennia.


we are not worth being mentioned in times of tomorrow, we barely are filler content

a shitty experiment that kills itself; selfish; racist; doesn't want humankind to transcend, instead wants to suck everything for their own very self


At least derive some joy from the fact you are far more perceptive than most identifying the negative traits of humanity. Most never have a clue and just exist…


Maybe they realize that being a landlord is an economically and societally destructive measure that saps productive capital from working and middle class. It’s vampiric. And awful.


I’m glad you enjoy Florida or Texas. Don’t get anyone pregnant accidentally cos you know why…


I have two kids. They are great.

Parts of Florida great. Never been to Texas.


That good quality proofed print journalism is rare, and the New Yorker produces quality content. I would agree and liked their message.


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