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This is cool! This is an extension version of the federalist [1] project I was working on earlier! This makes using federalist so much easier!

Way to go! Also, this is really cool that you did this!

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29513547


This sounds super cool! I was (mentally) toying around with an idea like this a few weeks back, maybe this'll teach me something.


I think that there is a bit of a disconnect in those that work on systemd. I agree that a revert makes sense in this case. Most people who will suffer real catastrophic breakage are also NOT usually using rolling-release or bleeding edge systems. This does, in fact, give a small window of time to issue this revert without causing massive harm. I also don't really see much toxicity in this discussion, instead just people arguing points.


As per the earlier drama with some of the Handshake admins and developers trying to bully developers out, I have linked up with some of the other developers who have experienced the same thing from them. We have setup a new discord server (it's brand new).

Looking forward to chatting there!


A link to this discord server from an official handshake resource would be really appreciated. Website, github repo, etc.


That's unlikely to happen, this discord was started because the post author was unhappy with official Handshake discord.

> I am going to start a Handshake community. Handshake itself is great and the toxic admins from their discord can't try to make everyone stop contributing.

https://github.com/publiusfederalist/why-i-quit-handshake


  Everybody is welcome to check on Discord what really happened. There was never any attack against him. 
I guess the following message was the beginning of a conversation publius didn't like:

https://discord.com/channels/822591034202521641/822591034202...

TL;DR After publius attacked a human being as piece of sh*t and used other misanthropic vocabulary, I responded: If this would be my discord, you would get banned for your misanthropic wording in the attached text. I think you are very unprofessional.

Neither the admins there nor I did ever escalate a conversation with publius.


I actually made a system called federalist [1] that uses mutable torrents. Hope you like it!

[1] https://github.com/publiusfederalist/federalist


If we're talking about the same person, he was the only one who actually encouraged what I was doing and even gave me the idea for Zooko.

However, the admins on their discord, were less than encouraging.

EDIT: As per the same person's advice, I'm going to start a new discord community without the toxicity.


Have you talked to Zooko about using his name for your project? He might not appreciate you trading on his reputation this way, particularly if your designs or implementations turn out to be fundamentally flawed.


Indeed - the developer here could ask Zooko, & be open to consider other names that convey homage & inspirations without wholesale endorsement. (1st thing that comes to mind: 'Zooter', combining suggestive fragments of 'zooko' & 'twitter'.)

Even cypherpunks soured on conventional IP often believe in folk trademarks, enforced by the reputational pressures to not mislead.


I e-mailed him about it days ago.

By the way, are you familiar with Zooko's triangle?


Are you joking? You emailed him and then launched your project with his name on it without waiting for a reply?


The dude doesn't own the name Zooko just 'cause his parents named that, if he has a problem with it the dev can remove the part of the README that mentions it's named in honor of him. That doesn't mean this Zooko person (my first time hearing of him) can demand or should demand the name of the project change.

My 2 cents but you seem a bit too incredulous over it.


Why are you commenting here if you don't know who Zooko is? That's like commenting on US history without knowing that the US is a country. How could your opinion possibly add anything of value?


Oh and yes obviously I'm familiar with Zooko's triangle.


I walked away from the crypto community at large, highly recommended. There are many more meaningful things to put you talents towards.


I've decided to begin my own community. Those toxic admins can't control the blockchain.


Unless there's some conversation not shown here, it reads to me like they are using "garbage" to refer to random contents of people's messages and/or posts (and saying that the whitepaper is not garbage, as opposed to random messages and posts, which are not "useful" on chain). I don't think they meant to call your project garbage, just that it adds garbage to the chain.


It's been an on-going conversation that's been going on a few days.


Huh?! No one controls the blockchain.


I also just pushed zooko message [1]. This allows you to encrypt and decrypt messages using only your handshake name.

[1] https://github.com/publiusfederalist/zooko-msg


This is definitely a little bit of a different medium to twitter and likely the '1 post per block' limitation is great in this case. Think before you Zooko, as it's permanent and forever.


[Submission Statement]: Right now, there are a lot of sentiments as it relates to de-platforming on various platforms. I was able to implement a completely decentralized twitter-like microblogging system on top of a blockchain, so this inherits the immutability from the chain with it. Since it uses Handshake, the posts are also name-verified.

I named it in honor of Zooko, one of the original Cypherpunks. Cypherpunks write code.

Onward.


Right now it's in POC form, so it's just using a simple 'zooko:' prepend to identify Zooko messages (Zookos). Since it's completely decentralized on chain, it actually doesn't need ActivityPub or XMPP for help (all you need is the ability to download the chain).


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