Due process isn't some silver bullet. Jim crow, witch trials, they all followed due process.

But yeah it's better than some capricious bureaucrat just pulling decisions out their ass with no serious recourse, except all those cases there the process is just that.

It's not that they're extreme or scary. It's that it's shitty to tolerate them and we can so readily afford better to the point where you will be looked at like a weirdo if you want to show up at work drenched in sweat because it was 88degrees freedom when you walked to work in the morning.

> we can so readily afford better

Can we really? All the reporting on climate change definitely has me thinking otherwise. There are options more respectful to our planet than digging tunnels like for example planting trees to help mediate temperatures.

It doesn't take a genius to look at the people who are putting in the hard work, look at their position in society and then look at the material life they can afford compared to the same position historically and draw conclusions.

To who? The politicians who will vote on it?

Should be taken to higher courts

People (usually on the internet) act like you "need" drawings.

You don't. Tolerances are almost never bespoke except in the rarest occasions of cutting edge green field development.

You can literally buy an old book (the info is all on the internet too but not in one place) and skim through thousands and thousands of pages that tell you what different classes of tolerance for different applications are. You don't need to know what they spec'd. You just need to know what the part was and how it was used.

The thought process goes like "This worn the f out coupling is .9443 inches major diameter, so it was a 1" (nominal) coupling, and it must slip under load, so I will use a class-whatever fit, and the tolerances for that are +/-.0gfy"

An imprecise drawing is also a sufficient starting point for the process.

And like 30% of the time then you get half way through figuring out how to set it up and realize that you can literally just buy whatever you're looking for at tractor supply or Alibaba or whatever and modify it slightly.

Airplanes aren't like that. Sure, bearings and bolts are standardized. But the rest is full custom.

airplanes too often were machined to fit. Where tollerances were used you got intrechangable parts and so could maintain it in the field - but that took a lot of skilled engineers.

Boeing put in a lot of effort to specify the tolerances so they fit without needing rework.

Engineers are only called in when the rework is not the same as the specification.

One of the hardest parts of all this is that you can have a bunch of parts, all in tolerance, but since they’re all on the small side of the tolerance, they add up to something out of tolerance.

Specifying those tolerances was part of my job. It is not hard, it is simple arithmetic. Well, with some trig. I was amazed at the other engineers who would simply pick "good engineering tolerance" and never do the arithmetic.

Once my lead engineer noticed that I sized the jackscrew length with a tolerance of 30.017 to 30.033 (I'm making up the numbers, as I don't recall the exact numbers). He said why not make it a nice round 30.02 to 30.03? I said that if the jackscrew came in at 30.018, it wouldn't need to be rejected and sent to rework. He thought for a moment, and said "carry on". LOL

That is something boeing but a lot of effort into, but many airplane makers didn't.

A hair trigger is unsuitable for police security use because guns are routinely drawn on people as a threat to exact compliance.

A hair trigger is unsuitable for combat use because of the "errybody be muzzle sweeping errybody up in here" nature of combat.

Those two uses are 99.99% of what the air force needs its pistols to do.

They could give it better tolerances so it has a "good trigger" without "hair trigger" but that will cost a lot of money. Or they could give it an absurd trigger pull like duty guns had in the "good old days" but that will cost just as much money for equivalent results because you'll need to train the force more to get the same accuracy of fire.

Additionally, with the fairly sloppy nature of these guns and the fundamental nature of how handguns work, it's not unforeseeable that they do get clapped out to the point of just going off if you bump the slide right as they age since they're so close to that as is.

Considering how many people need to be trained/equipped and how often the air force fires sidearms in "real" situations both of these solutions are way, way, way more expensive than a few bodies.

1: It isn't a hair trigger, it is still a 6 to 6.5 pound pull.

2: The trigger is what it is, the military and police departments chose it for what was.

I agree, the police in particular, should use a gun that takes more effort to fire. But don't blame Sig for this, it isn't a design flaw.

The P320 absolutely has design and manufacturing flaws. The P250 fire control unit was shoehorned into a striker fired pistol when they should've gone back to the drawing board like they did with the P365, which doesn't have these issues.

There are also manufacturing issues with intermingling parts with different geometries intended for different calibers and building guns with the wrong parts, such as installing a 10mm Auto/.45 ACP takedown safety level in a 9mm gun, or installing a metal injection molded firing pin safety that's out of spec, worn, or contributes to tolerance stacking in such a way that the gun becomes unsafe.

These are all good theories. Someone should demonstrate it if true. When there were drop safe questions, it was able to be reproduced, and there was a change to address it. Show an uncommanded discharge, show why it happened. Then you have a design or manufacturing flaw.

I think the problem is that there's not a single identifiable problem. There's a series of related problems caused by manufacturing and engineering decisions that lead to parts not interoperating as designed.

For example, Sig offered a "voluntary upgrade" to fix the well documented drop safety flaw with the P320, and there's video proof of the same guns going off still in holsters.

Sig is going to be playing whackamole fixing these issues if they ever admit to it, so they won't.

I mean demonstrate it on a gun that has had an uncommanded discharge. Make it happen again, and then identify the problem on that specific gun.

As you point out, the drop issue was well documented, and then fixed. So far, no one has identified a cause for the possible uncommanded discharge.

It really doesn’t matter at this point whether someone is able to document it or not. There is a lot of anecdotal evidence of uncommanded discharge (yes the plural of anecdote is not data), and the reputational damage to the gun and the brand has already happened. If I were in the market for another handgun at this point, I would personally skip the Sig, because even at a %0.001 chance that this is a legit problem, my risk tolerance around firearms is pretty low, so I’ll just spend more and get a Glock where I’m certain it’s safe.

Stuffy middle class on up white people killed cities. Stuffy middle class on up white people killed care culture. Stuffy middle class on up white people killed... just about everything.

All those tropes, jokes, memes and other culture crapping on various slices of that broader demographic don't come from nowhere.

>Most of the time people drive SUVs alone.

Most of the time people drive sedans alone.

If people bought based purely on passenger need 99% of vehicles on the road should be 2-seat coupes, pickups and vans.

I agree, I was just answering to the "people with families drive large cars" in general, and wrote SUV accidentally.

>For example, taking an SUV off road.

Not even. Buying thrift store furniture is a wildly different experience in a modern crossover than it is a sedan or even an old station wagon.

The zone's #1 job is to buy enough time for the airbags to inflate during a crash at speed. Occupants moving forward toward the space the airbags will occupy as the vehicle stops and then being hit by an airbag attempting to occupy that space would be bad.

The degree to which crumple zones attenuate forces felt in a crash is fairly minimal in low speed crashes because in order to have enough time for airbags to inflate in a 100+mph crash they are necessarily quite stiff.