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app-ing an industry won't allow you to charge more for the same service. Real innovation is supposed to bring costs down and productivity up which in turn increase demand for the service.


The are only so many women in tech because 95% of jobs in tech suck balls.

1. entry level with zero career progression

2. agile-scrum micro management

3. task oriented, big picture is for business (grown ups)

4. pay is good, starts above other jobs but hits ceiling after 5y

5. introverts only (95% time is spent sitting inside your head)

6. working with code (inanimate matter) is less interesting than working with people,

7. most often you're surrounded by nerds who don't have a life

Surely the above isn't the case if you're in a successful company, but 90% people maintain legacy internal app in a big corpo.


Yeah, an intern did this in his spare 20% time.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/volkswagen-em...

#enron #pinto #oilspill


Why don't you "motivate" frequent users to start paying?

ex. by making the free version (gradually) worse until you see revenue.

ex.

- non pro user pastebins last 5mins, 5 views etc

- non pro users can post 1 pastebin per day (cookies, IP)

- non pro user pastebins are max x characters long.

- you get the idea

- there are clever people on this forum who will come up with good ideas to help you out.

- do everything BUT show ads, PLEASE. Internet's sole purpose is almost all that already.


You're confusing pastebin.com with jsbin.com. None of those restrictions wouldn't really make much sense for JS Bin I think.


None of those ...

Hope you got my point. The above are only meant as an example.

Main idea is to cripple* the free tier enough to push a chunk of current users from free into pro. Some will leave but you don't want them anyway (they will never pay).

* how exactly cripple? This is the product design / product-market-fit stage work that was skipped when building jsbin.com


at the risk of repeating myself... already send this here a couple of times

Working on something similar. Currently supporting Android (draw/view) and HTML5 (view only, mouse zoom/pan).

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.writelive

Small showcase:

- vector graphics/drawings created by freehand / writing http://write-live.com/d/dba21681-8d3f-4fbe-8b4b-e5c1983df934

- handles more complex drawings: (give it time to load) http://write-live.com/d/7fce10bb-bc39-43d4-a7f1-6bd0d60b9550 http://write-live.com/d/8f9b7846-a7b9-4e5c-b704-dad9aa87d14e

- unlimited* levels of zoom http://docs.write-live.com/WriteliveServer/webview.html?d=34...

- Drawings are stored in the cloud, and can be accessed by multiple devices simultaneously: co-drawing, draw on a tablet, view on tablet / web http://write-live.com/d/538254c5-7d31-41f2-83bb-bcd0a7cee7ab


A crossover between Google docs with OneNote:

- vector graphics/drawings created by freehand / writing http://write-live.com/d/dba21681-8d3f-4fbe-8b4b-e5c1983df934

- handles more complex drawings: (give it time to load) http://write-live.com/d/7fce10bb-bc39-43d4-a7f1-6bd0d60b9550 http://write-live.com/d/8f9b7846-a7b9-4e5c-b704-dad9aa87d14e

- unlimited* levels of zoom http://docs.write-live.com/WriteliveServer/webview.html?d=34...

- Drawings are stored in the cloud, and can be accessed by multiple devices simultaneously: co-drawing, draw on a tablet, view on tablet / web http://write-live.com/d/538254c5-7d31-41f2-83bb-bcd0a7cee7ab


Looks great! Installed it and will check it out later!


Even though typing normal text is faster, noting by hand doesn't use as much brain resources so it's possible to listen and note at the same time. Keying occupies abstract mind to the point you cannot process words with the same depth of understanding. Thinking / designing is also MUCH easier in front of a plank page than in front of screen & keyboard.

Therefore I am working on an app for note taking:

A bit like if google docs had a baby with OneNote

- vector graphics/drawings created by freehand / writing http://write-live.com/d/dba21681-8d3f-4fbe-8b4b-e5c1983df934

http://write-live.com/d/8f9b7846-a7b9-4e5c-b704-dad9aa87d14e

- unlimited* levels of zoom http://docs.write-live.com/WriteliveServer/webview.html?d=34...

- draw on a tablet, view on tablet / web http://write-live.com/d/538254c5-7d31-41f2-83bb-bcd0a7cee7ab


"google docs" of handwriting / freehand with real-time collaboration. A bit like if google docs had a child with OneNote...

- vector graphics/drawings created by freehand / writing http://write-live.com/d/dba21681-8d3f-4fbe-8b4b-e5c1983df934

http://write-live.com/d/8f9b7846-a7b9-4e5c-b704-dad9aa87d14e

- unlimited* levels of zoom http://docs.write-live.com/WriteliveServer/webview.html?d=34...

- draw on a tablet, view on tablet / web http://write-live.com/d/538254c5-7d31-41f2-83bb-bcd0a7cee7ab


That sounds awesome! That's one of those problems that I've had in the "Someday Maybe" bin for a long time, but I've been perpetually hoping that someone else comes up with a solution so that I can just pay them money instead of having to do it myself.


this looks fantastic, and i would pay for this on an iphone in a heartbeat


I'm working on something similar: - vector graphics/drawings created by freehand / writing http://write-live.com/d/dba21681-8d3f-4fbe-8b4b-e5c1983df934

http://write-live.com/d/8f9b7846-a7b9-4e5c-b704-dad9aa87d14e

- unlimited* levels of zoom http://docs.write-live.com/WriteliveServer/webview.html?d=34...

- draw on a tablet, view on tablet / web http://write-live.com/d/538254c5-7d31-41f2-83bb-bcd0a7cee7ab

A bit like if google docs had a baby with OneNote


I finished something like this too, after working on it for about a year: http://papertogether.com/ Of course it's not as fully featured, but it was a fun experience. I'm surprised to see that so many others had this idea and implemented it too - I thought I was the only one interested in collaborative drawing.


Working on something kind of similar: - vector graphics/drawings created by freehand / writing http://write-live.com/d/dba21681-8d3f-4fbe-8b4b-e5c1983df934

http://write-live.com/d/8f9b7846-a7b9-4e5c-b704-dad9aa87d14e

- unlimited* levels of zoom http://docs.write-live.com/WriteliveServer/webview.html?d=34...

- draw on a tablet, view on tablet / web http://write-live.com/d/538254c5-7d31-41f2-83bb-bcd0a7cee7ab

A bit like if google docs had a baby with OneNote


I tried out the zooming capability (nice) but it seems like your stroke width does not change in response to the zoom level (at least not in lock step)? So the redness in the lady's dress changes as you zoom. Isn't that a problem?


True. I'm on the fence here.

Keeping "real" thickness slows down rendering by a factor of 1.5-2 depending on browser used. Images look better though. I'm not sure what users want at this stage of the project. Perhaps a toggle?


sounds a bit like bigpicture.js with drawing; good stuff! https://github.com/josephernest/bigpicture.js


Thanks, didn't know about bigpicture.js. The whole idea isn't that super new.

Not sure if I communicated it across: Writelive drawings are always updated in real time. Think shared whiteboard. Co-drawing / co-writing. Currently you can only view via web. Drawing is limited to Android - drawing without a pressure sensitive stylus offers bad experience anyway.


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