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Huge missed opportunity not using Alice and Tom for the relevant initials lol

Perfect use of that line lol

Facey Talk! Funniest episode of the whole series :)


https://webawesome.com is now in beta and I couldn't be happier.


Hi HN,

I have a personal project for managing my monthly bills. Ten years ago I wrote it in React (and even posted it here - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12010853 - zero comments lol). Recently I rewrote it using HTMX and the newly-beta Web Awesome.

I'm really happy with the result. IMO it feels like a 2025 website should – it has animations, loading indicators, a nice theme, etc. No landing page though. Again, I wrote this to solve my own problem, not to create a product to sell.

I'd encourage folks to check it out to see that an HTMX site can look & feel just as modern as a React site.

NB: use dummy data and bogus emails – I don't want your real data.

Thanks for reading :)

https://getbudgeter.com/signup


Not signing up for something that's not well explained


Good idea.

I posted this for the htmx-curious, who can use fake emails and fake data, because you're absolutely right: no one should be signing up for random sites with their real info.


I am an HTMX enthusiast, I'm not so worried about privacy and such, it's just a barrier to a good demo. I should click that link and see something that knocks my socks off -- that's a good demo. Providing an email and password to log in for the demo would be one way to grease those skids, but I really should see something on the first page that makes me interested.


That's fair. I'd probably go through the effort to do that if I was trying to promote my product, but I'm just here promoting htmx/webawesome. Or, more specifically, I've seen plenty of comments on HN asking if anyone has examples of real sites using htmx, and there's been surprisingly few, so I just wanted to do my part and add one lol


I gotta make some version of this public

https://mastodon.social/@UP8/114887102728039235


Please point me to the EOs Biden signed that gave him absolute power.


I've been experimenting with HTMX + Shoelace for the last few months. I'm really rooting for Shoelace/Web Awesome to thrive! Especially since Material Web seemed to quickly end up in maintenance mode, I'm hoping Web Awesome becomes the MUI of web components


And it is built with https://lit.dev a fantastic library !

> since Material Web seemed to quickly end up in maintenance mode

This is really unfortunate to say the least - the engineering team has done a fantastic job there, but apparently no backing from Google despite the nice promise at the the launch of Material Web.


Polymer used to be Google's flagship for web components. Did a non-Google project take on that role?


I think there's some link between the two. Like Polymer was handed off to a new team/owner/governance model and was renamed to Lit in the process. Could be wrong, but that's what I've gathered.


HTMX and shoelace is an awesome combo. Super fast to prototype things and tweak as needed. Being able to copy paste snippets and directly inject data in a straightforward way is a nice way of working. It limits cognitive overhead so you can focus on the domain logic rather than fight javascript dependencies.


I miss class components!

(I know we _can_ use them still but it's hard to convince teams of people to stick with them and ignore what the docs say are best practices for the last five years.)


Frontend:

- "vanilla" React (no Next.js or any other framework-y bloat)

- MUI

- React Router (v5 because v6 is a pain)

Backend:

- Node

- Typescript

- Express

- Prisma or Sequelize

- Sometimes Django/DRF in lieu of the above

- MySQL or Postgres

Deployment:

- KISS principle: one Digital Ocean droplet, no serverless or any of that


Completely agree. Class components are so beautifully simple. Hooks have infuriating edge cases and are so bizarre they need ESLint plugins to remind people how they work.


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