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From my experience it was hell of a whole week, specially the first 5 days. And every kind of light was aggressive for me. My eyesight took ~3 weeks to be able to read properly on screen without zooming 400%. I didn't freak out because my doctor told me that the healing process really depended on everyone's body. 2 years later I have absolutely not regrets from doing that surgery despite probably still always reminding myself as one of the worst week of my life during recovery.


I had a completely different experience.

First 30 or so hours were pretty inconvenient: dry eyes, bandage lens that would cause itching and general photophobia. The Doctor removed my bandage lens after less than 48 hours and the same day I resumed my normal life. I was still sensitive to light but I could read screens without issues at all.


I've been using nextdns.io (which seem to have founded this initiative) for a few years and it works pretty well for that


You can get VAT refunded if you're only passing through [0]

[0]https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/vat...


It's even worse, they literally got their formula from a llm model (probably Grok?) => https://bsky.app/profile/dansinker.com/post/3llunnyfeoj2v

"To calculate reciprocal tariffs, import and export data from the U.S. Census Bureau for 2024. Parameter values for ε and φ were selected. The price elasticity of import demand, ε, was set at 4.

Recent evidence suggests the elasticity is near 2 in the long run (Boehm et al., 2023), but estimates of the elasticity vary. To be conservative, studies that find higher elasticities near 3-4 were drawn on. The elasticity of import prices with respect to tariffs, φ, is 0.25."[0]

[0] https://ustr.gov/issue-areas/reciprocal-tariff-calculations


Do I understand this right: The evidence that they took it from a LLM is that all LLMs give the same answer and this answer describes what they did?

By that logic, it looks like Pythagoras got his theorem from an LLM...


It explains why they singled out Reunion from France, it has a separate ccTLD. That type of mistake is the kind a LLM would do, not a human...

I'm convinced. this is fucking crazy.


>It explains why they singled out Reunion from France, it has a separate ccTLD

It also has a separate country abbreviation (RE). You know, like you'd see on an address. The thing that tells you where something, like a good imported in to the United States, is coming from.

This is is why it has a separate ccTLD by the way.

This blue sky thread is just an incredible example of motivated reasoning.


> It also has a separate country abbreviation (RE). You know, like you'd see on an address. The thing that tells you where something, like a good imported in to the United States, is coming from.

Yes, obviously, it's ISO 3166-1 but that's a batshit way of assigning tariffs. To the point I suspect it's a LLM.

Norfolk Island? The island with 3000 people, which in the context of international trade is a speck at the side of Australia. Or the uninhabited Heard Island and McDonald Islands with zero trade?

If Reunion and Norfolk Island are to be considered separately from their mainlands, where are the tariffs for Easter Island (Chile)? It has more people than Norfolk and probably more trade, it's 3700ish km from the administrative region it belongs, so it geographically distinct like Reunion.

Anyone (with a pulse) tasked with calculating the tariffs would see this and think "I have to remove these outliers". So the two options are:

A. Someone took the ISO 3166-1 codes and brainlessly calculated their batshit formula without noticing that HM doesn't produce anything. They did not instead do the more natural thing, go from highest imports to lowest which would've eliminated HM and most anomalies. They didn't even check their work.

B. They asked an LLM, which calculated this in the most naive way possible one-shot.

I dunno governor, this looks like vibecoded Excel spreadsheets.


>If Reunion and Norfolk Island are to be considered separately from their mainlands, where are the tariffs for Easter Island (Chile)?

Easter Island's mailing address says Chile. Norfolk Island mailing address does not include Australia, nor does Reunion include French.

>They asked an LLM, which calculated this in the most naive way possible one-shot.

Whats the connection between LLMs and domain name endings or whatever again? Like why does using them necessitate the use of LLMs?

Let's think through it from the ground up... How would you expect them to come up with a list of countries? Are they supposed to just get a group of people together and compile a list of countries they can think of by memory? Clearly they will refer to some standardized list.


If ChatGPT was available back then, sure.


Its worse than that. Its like saying you must have used chat gpt because you answered that 2+2= 4 and gasp so do the LLMs! Nevermind that its just the obvious answer to the question.

Lets see the prompt. The prompt further down in the thread that reproduces it was asking how to use tariffs to balance trade deficits with a 10% minimum. Is there any other answer then set the rate such that the deficit goes away or 10%, whichever is greater? No. That's just the answer to the question and is why ALL LLMs give the same answer.


LLMs are basically just good at sourcing ideas from the internet. Me thinks this just means that this tariff idea exists on the internet, especially since grok, chatgpt, etc all come up with the same idea. We used to not have income taxes and funded the govt with tariffs so this probably isn't a new concept despite media outlets pretending like it is.


It's good at compressing information from the internet, usually not losslessly.


Are you implying there is a very small chance that if someone posted in 2018 reddit "We should tariff Algeria at 35% because X", the LLM that the administration may have used would have agreed with random redditor?


> Me thinks this just means that this tariff idea exists on the internet

Probably from some random genius on reddit.


It is really silly to say that because an LLM gave a similar approach a single time and someone took a screencap of it without full context, that Elon and Trump are sitting in the whitehouse asking Grok what to. This level of hyperbole is why reading about anything to do with the two of them is really exhausting.


People are saying they literally used the trade deficit and the formula they published that they claim doesn’t do this multiplies that value by 4 and then 0.25. Yeah… that is what we are dealing with.


> Elon and Trump are sitting in the whitehouse asking Grok what to

Not perhaps Elon or Trump themselves (doubt Trump can actually use a computer), but it could very well be one of the teens like the so-called "Big Balls" that apparently have their hands in everything.

> This level of hyperbole is why reading about anything to do with the two of them is really exhausting

Almost as exhausting as their daily actions / tweets / rants.


>It is really silly to say that because an LLM gave a similar approach a single time and someone took a screencap of it without full context, that Elon and Trump are sitting in the whitehouse asking Grok what to.

A similar approach to a close-ended question.

The original screenshot doesnt show the prompt. The one reproducing it asks for a tariff policy to eliminate trade deficits with a 10% minimum. Umm... hello? There is only one answer to that. The greater value between 10% and a rate based on the deficit. Of course the Trump policy and all 4 LLM answers agree. The answer is determined by the question.

Its like accusing little Timmy of cheating on his math homework because he said 2+2=4 and -- GASP -- so do all the LLMs!


Wow. So they came up with zero-effort estimates of the tariff rate which would balance the trade deficit. The method is like something you'd be asked to criticise in A level economics.

Then they incorrectly labelled these numbers as reciprocal tarrifs implying this is what other countries charge the US.

The worst of it is that all of this misinformation will be happily accepted as truth by so many people. It's now going to be almost impossible to have people realise the truth, especially those people who support Trump. Ugh.


> It's now going to be almost impossible to have people realise the truth, especially those people who support Trump

NOW? It's been this way for close to 10 years.


I was curious so I checked what is the state of the regulations in the EU and I found this: https://single-market-economy.ec.europa.eu/news/chemicals-eu...

So yeah it's starting to be phased-out little by little but there is definitely the same exposure in here.


Love your "About Us" page


=> Nobody can never be trusted


=> I think, therefore I am. Everything else is speculation.


=> Certainly is.


It's also funny how every thread related to UE regulation turns into the UE being depicted a "no-free speech" / "corrupt" / "undemocratic" etc.

Yeah we're living in an absolute hellhole here in the UE, damn those institutions for trying to protect the general population against megacorps / missinformation. (/s)

It honestly feel more like the comment section on Youtube or Facebook sometimes around here.


Yeah, everyone shits on the EU, like "the EU is actually worst than [insert random dictatorship]", yet there are more people trying to emigrate to EU than ever.

Even inside EU, people shit on the EU. My take is that people in EU and in the west generally are bored/ashamed with their easy lives, they want to be badass, not to have it easy. So they live in a fictional universe where they are actually persecuted. "We have no freedom of speech!! We live in a dictatorship". But deep down it's all pretending, no one want to actually emigrate from EU to Russia. Even Russians, whenever enough money is around, well, you can be sure the children of wealthy oligarchs are living in London, Paris, Bruxel, enjoying free speech, freedom, healthcare, schools, but somehow, still shitting on the EU...


Or perhaps it isn't a hellhole because we allowed several degrees of freedom without the control of information.

States that are hellholes almost exclusively opt for this option and it isn't difficult to explain why that is.


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The Hunter Biden's scandal was misinformation lite. The fact that it benefits Putin, means it is misinformation enough to be silenced. The fact that you are bringing it up is essentially you being a supporter of Putin.

/s


Why the /s ? You actually said the truth, but it seems you aren’t aware.


I laughed so hard when I read your comment, thank you. Even the Democratic base acknowledges Hunter's laptop to be real and full of incriminating evidence - most democrats want Hunter prosecuted.

Please, tell me you're from the EU! Only EU media is still peddling this BS.


ROFL.

I'm better at simulating NPC behaviour than I thought.


That we got downvoted about something so easily verifiable and so shockingly corrupt really says a lot about the length humans go to grip to a delusion.

Back in 2020 those of us that had followed the Ukr war since 2014 knew that the material in the laptop was real. It's 2024; by now even the NYT has admitted the laptop and its contents are his.


Well so far their business model seems to be mostly centered about raising money[1]. I do hope they succeed in becoming a succesful contender against OpenAI.

[1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-04/openai-ri...



If you can pay your plane ticket online I'm sure you can do so with the ETIAS as well.


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