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Happy to see a Swiss online retailer on HN, where the audience is more US focused.

Amazon has little traction in Switzerland still.

Swiss people like to support local businesses, hurray!


The Amazon website is just pure and utter garbage. I seriously don't know why anyone can buy anything there. They would have to sell everything at least at halve the price for me even considering using them instead of Digitec. Amazon has little traction because Switzerland is small so they don't care, not as price sensitive as others and hence people don't like to torment themselves just to save a few bucks.


Tech recruiter here in Switzerland; sadly, I can only agree. Ageism is a big problem no one talks about.


Come to the US. It's beyond absurd. Gray hair is considered a sign of a slow, old worker no one wants to hire. Only youth need apply, in spite of experience and wisdom, which counts for nothing.

DEI (Diversity Equity Inclusion) extends primarily to (minority) ethnicities, women and nonbinary, religions, and sexual orientations. Age is definitely not a DEI KPI target.


I'm not seeing this right now. I'm almost 42, just laid off, should have three offers this week after only three weeks of looking. I have lots of white hair...I think it's all in the presentation and expectations.


As a foreigner living in Switzerland, having started a PhD at “old” age, please don’t tell me this…

At what age does ageism kick in?


35 and with 45 one is too old to be hired in tech anymore. Eventually as a consultant through some middleman company for a year or so.


I can tell you as someone in that age bracket I have never had more opportunities and a higher paying salary at any other point in my life than right now, without a doubt. Even in the current economic climate I had 3 interviews this week and I'm barely even looking.


Never undertake a degree without a purpose, e.g., a PhD, unless there's an net positive (amortized) lifetime economic incentive to do so, otherwise it may be a waste of time and money.

It depends on the gray hair count and chin sagging. Fixable with dye, plastic surgery, and other forms of creative, strategic deception. :)


Tech recruiter here from Switzerland, and our mobile coverage is probably one of the best in the world.

One of the things I hate most is that I often can't hear people.

Selling people jobs on the phone is stressful enough, but extremely annoying if I don't get feedback whether the person even heard what I said.


well done as usual julian, keep going


I've been a coder in Switzerland and now I run a tech recruitment agency: https://coderfit.com - I focus solely on Zurich and surrounding regions.

1. Engineers are similarly in demand as everywhere in Europe

2. I'd say the "cost of living" to "after tax salaries" ratio is unbeatably good

3. 100% remote work: not that popular; why would I pay you 130k CHF remote when I can get someone in Ukraine for $50k?

I had cases where firms wanted a Swiss (German speaking) person and they paid 140k CHF for fully remote but this was an exception.

Ping me for any further questions: iwan@coderfit.com or better just cold call me: +41 77 986 9000 (I am on any messenger app like Signal, Whatsapp etc.)


> why would I pay you 130k CHF remote when I can get someone in Ukraine for $50k?

The Ukrainian dev would probably bill 130k CHF if he had the same skills...


Contractor working from Ukraine could bill less because of low taxes for contract work (5%) and much lower CoL compared to Switzerland. But yeah, you are not going to hire anyone remotely competent for $50k in 2022.


You would likely be surprised. There is a ton of strong software talent in the Ukraine and not quite as much demand as they’d probably like, with predictable outcomes in terms of the balance of market forces.


Quatico.com | Lead Frontend Frontend Engineer (German C1+) | Zurich, Switzerland | SALARY: ~130k CHF | 3 days/week in the office | Swiss or EU member-states passport-holders only

We are a 20-person team building tailored web apps with heavy custom business logic on the server. Our products are analyzing the weather data in Switzerland, hold governmental portals online, keep trading dashboards humming, and do much more.

Clean code is our passion. Yours too?

Our interview process:

1) Phone screen with our CTO

2) Two sessions of remote pair-programming with our engineers (no algorithmic questions but reasonable pair-programming tasks).

3) Onsite half a day with us.

Interested? We'd like to hear from you:

iwan.gulenko atsign quatico.com - Please use "HN" in the subject line to help us filter out spam


Hi, Iwan Gulenko (https://linkedin.com/in/iwan-gulenko), tech recruiter from Switzerland here.

In every culture it's different. In Switzerland, three stints of less than two years at companies is already a "Nogo".

In your situation, I would throughly ask why the stints were so short; maybe there are good reasons like the companies went bankrupt without any fault of the applicant, or maybe there is another specific reason that makes it more likely that they stick around with you, e.g., if you use a tech stack they love.


Iwan here from coderfit.com

Joining Can: lovely to see a Bern-based firm at YC and on HN!

Finally, we get access to a cool startup offering FIRST before Americans/everyone else!


Quatico.com | Frontend (React, English OK), Solution Architect (German C1) | Zurich, Switzerland | SALARY: 90k-130k CHF | ONSITE | Swiss or EU member-states passport-holders only

We are a 20-person team building tailored web apps with heavy custom business logic on the server. Our products are analyzing the weather data in Switzerland, hold governmental portals online, keep trading dashboards humming, and do much more.

Clean code is our passion. Yours too?

Our interview process:

1) Phone screen with our CTO

2) Two sessions of remote pair-programming with our engineers (no algorithmic questions but reasonable pair-programming tasks).

3) Onsite half a day with us.

Interested? We'd like to hear from you:

iwan.gulenko atsign quatico.com - Please use "HN" in the subject line to help us filter out spam


These profits will be reinvested and benefit also the consumer in the end


Good one


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