Not sure I agree with the premise.

New cars are being made. Sure this might kinda suck. But most of the enthusiast are driving and loving cars from the 1970's that have been out of production for decades right?

Saying EV's kill muscle cars is like saying Cars killed of horse riding.

Sure, there are less breeders for day-to-day travelling requirement style stuff, but the hobbyists keep everything going, and in some ways I would imagine it will bring round a golden era where these things aren't required to be useful as day-to-day options and can just be for fun

I don't think so (not a Londoner)

It was my impression that the whole thing was just about simplification in order to provide a better service.

I am literally in the middle of building this same thing! (well almost the same, im trying to keep it 100% local device)

I'd love to connect and share ideas if your up for that?

chris at Matheson dot it

I had similar 1st thoughts on the allergy front.

I can concur that plan based cheese sucks. Id rather eat the real stuff and suffer the consequences than eat the plant/coconut based stuff lol

I wonder how allergens will be handled.

I have a dairy allergy, and so vegan cheese to me means safe to eat. When there is vegan cheese but its got "engineered" animal protean which sets of my allergies just as well as the naturally occurring stuff, its going to get even more complex to figure out what I can and cant eat.

There are a lot of comments and thinking along the demo and gloom lines.

On the "silver lining" side, could be a eye-opener for the population of the UK, that things they take for granted cant get summarily yanked away if they don't actually do something.

And with any luck it will pull up the technical competency of every person using these services (pretty much every adult).

With any luck parents might even be forced to gain the skill their kids already live and breathe and don't think twice about.

:)

I used to be optimistic that way, but if you look somewhere similar developments happened before like China: yes, people adapted to circumvent their regime's oppression, but the laws never changed.

Since surveillance is only a 2nd tier issue in terms of mind share (at best), it's untouched by electoral democracy. And because rulers automatically support more surveillance, there are no mechanisms for positive developments on that side, both in the UK and in China.

But we did, I've been protesting against laws like this for 17 years now! Genuinely, they've always been trying to implement these laws, and simply relied on us missing the ship one time.

If COVID policies and mandates including the vaccine passports which absolutely paved the way for digital IDs for any action in society, didn't wake up populations around the world, nothing will.

You just need to scare them when there's an appearance of dissent and that's that.

Few people can combat them effectively from a tech and legal framework, for sure, but don't expect magic from nowhere.

Every time this comes up, an accusation with some label becomes sufficient to dismiss any arguments from a person.

Any suggestions?

Everyone with any ability to open their eyes migrated to the US from the UK ages ago. The civilization that exists today is what happens when people too scared to get on a boat live in the dregs of a dying empire.

>is TOR an answer to this ?

I've found Tor is mostly useful for reading, not participating. Exit nodes get blocked from registering on most sites. One workaround is to register at a café or library then use the account over Tor, but sometimes even if you're being civil (see my comment history for a a pretty good picture of the style of discussions I have anonymously) sometimes you'll wake up to find the account nuked.

Tor exit nodes are the _first_ thing they ban! If your origin is not from within one of the top residential ISPs then you can expect to be selected for enhanced screening.

But what if 50% of the adult population starts using it?

Then the law is enforced selectively at the whims of the state.

I heard on here I think (but can't confirm) that renting a cheap server in a data centre and sticking your own tailscale on it is the best way to go.

It is incredibly easy to tell if someone is using TOR. It would be banned before VPNs

Not if you are using bridges

Bridges don't change your exit node.

how?

Only if you want your traffic to flow through NSA-backed honeypots and get caught up in a dragnet.

I mean, it's probably the case that traditional VPNs are also dragnets to some degree, but TOR is a confirmed NSA dragnet.

Sorry you had that experience surprisetalk. Glad for you that it was all ok.

Theres a saying that comes to my mind, I think it used to be a lot more common.

"it only takes 6 inches of water to drown"

Fall funny, get nocked out and land in a puddle or whatever, or cant lift your head out of it for whatever reason etc etc.

I am VERY conscious of water & my kids, being a scuba diver myself I have a fair respect for the sea as well, and still we have had experiences that left us a little shook.

I feel like I should point out here that surprisetalk (who posted the link) isn't jefftk (who wrote the post).

thanks for the clarification, I didn't notice that obviously ;)

This was a welcome find today on HN. Gave my day a bit of joy.

I tried Wallabag and ended on Instapaper (again, I think I moved from IP -> Pocket originally). Just didn't get on with the UI / general experience of Wallabag, IP is more attuned to my polished style preferences I guess