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This is overblown.

The police are responsible for deciding how to classify a report. Their decisions need to be audited to avoid corruption.

Ergo they have to maintain a record of reports they decided were not hate crimes.


How long should police hold on to reports that they don't do anything with? If I make a complaint to the police about you, should an unrelated interaction you have with the police 5 years later bring up that report? Do you have a right to be forgotten if you haven't been convicted of a crime? Do I have a right to be forgotten if I've filed a report (or reports) that the police determine is/are frivolous?

I can think of plenty scenarios where these records should be destroyed permanently after some amount of time - namely, if the police decide not to refer to a prosecutor, or if the prosecutor decides not to press charges, or if the defendant is found not guilty.


This is true but, non crime hate incidents can appear on enhanced DBS checks (criminal records): https://www.slaterheelis.co.uk/articles/crime-category/non-c... and https://www.london.gov.uk/who-we-are/what-london-assembly-do... - but bizarrely not on security clearances at least according to the London link.

I would hope that this along with any other disclosure where the police decided on no action would be treated appropriately and only disclosed/acted upon if the incident was really worrying. On the other hand, I can't help but feel if the incident is worrying enough would it not also meet the bar for a criminal incident?

I'm not really comfortable with the naming and the lack of due process to be honest.

On the other hand, being careful what you say on social media is a requisite in many careers as companies can and do perform private background checks.


>Their decisions need to be audited to avoid corruption.

And as we all know: corruption ends abruptly at the highest levels.


Depends what else it's solving for.

I've seen multiple issues solved like this after engineering teams have been cut to the bone.

If the cost of maintaining enough engineers to keep systems stable for more than 24 hours, is more than the cost of doubling the container count, then this is what happens


This. All the domain knowledge has left. This sounds like a Hacky work around at best which AWS will welcome you with open arms come invoice day.


The us system is what a free market approach inevitably degrades into when consumers don't have a real option to say no to a service.


So the free market approach degrades to heavily regulated and government controlled?


No, it degrades into monopolists with a captive audience. Insurance companies are modern day water barons.


If they used their own products to do this then yes. If not then no.

Is that what happened?


Hypothesis: The better you understand the world, the more likely you are to need an occasional drink.


addition to hypothesis:

and that need grows exponentially with your understanding of the world until a certain point.

That need can be reduced to a healthy "Mom said everything is fine in moderate amounts" once you choose to not live by conflicting standards, or rather: when you choose to not support implicitly AND explicitly conflicting causes ( many on the left, finboys & fingirls, law enforcement, ... but unemployed who don't work on themselves or their environment as well )


Not really, you need a coping mechanism with all the crap and stupidity across society, and how powerless truth and correct moral behavior can be.

Alcohol is one of the worst ones, you just blunt yourself while still realizing all failures, just temporarily a bit downtuned, next morning back to misery. No solution or even improvement is happening, just basically giving up (or a bit of complaining which is just group psychological therapy).

Sports, meditation, maybe even occasional psychedelics steered in right direction, active vacations, good food, good sleep. Life is much easier in such mode.


So you are saying “psychedelics good coping mechanism, alcohol bad”?

That is California sobriety at a level I’ve never seen before.


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Since you've reverted to breaking the site guidelines again, we've banned the account again.


None directly afaik.

But attachment has immense benefit for social animals. Attachment is maintained by both positive and negative emotional incentives.

Grief is the negative emotional incentive ramped up to the max.


Since when are bots operated by organised disinformation campaigns 'the people'?


The article is very clear these accounts are "bot-like" but don't make a clear claim, simply citing red flags of bot-ness. As noted below, they do not list out the 45 "bot-like" accounts in question, while they do cite specific "divisive political content" that is counter to a progressive political campaign.

So maybe so, maybe not. Not disputing that bots are a problem on X. But in this case, theres an obvious effort to lump in all anti-progressive writing as "divisive political content."


The offender was a Christian born and raised in the UK. Social media amplified a false narrative of them being a Muslim illegal immigrant.

So now rioters are attacking innocent Muslims and their places of worship.


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Obviously because the name looks foreign they must be Muslim. That's how it works.

Nevermind that Rwanda is like 90% Christian.


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You know perfectly well that the rioters attacked a local mosque before the stabber's identity was revealed.


If you think the message that he was a Muslim immigrant murderer had no effect on these protests I have a bridge to sell you.


Why do you believe the offender's name is relevant?


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The picture painted was accurate and relevant

> Self-described ‘news’ accounts rapidly spread falsehoods around the perpetrator. One viral narrative falsely named him as “Ali al-Shakati”, a Muslim migrant new to the UK. This was later debunked by the police. Nonetheless, false claims surrounding the attack quickly garnered millions of views online, galvanised by anti-Muslim and anti-migrant activists and promoted by platforms’ recommender systems.


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Can you tell us what it is really about then?


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"It is illegal for me to explain my position" is some grade-A bullshit my friend. I'm still laughing at the sheer chutzpah at trying to make that argument. It's got that "I can't fight you because my fists are classified as deadly weapons by the government" level of teenager argument.


It's the law and being punished more severely than murder in most cases. It's also unnecessary because all of you know what this is about


There are plenty of examples of people being arrested for expressing anti-immigrant sentiments in the UK.

Here’s one example but there are thousands of examples like this.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13714445/amp/Crackd...


The guy wasn't an immigrant though. Born and raised in Britain, as per the higher comment in the chain


I'm just saying that the comment saying it's illegal to talk about this stuff in his country is entirely plausible, there are lots of examples of people being arrested and jailed for saying the wrong things about this situation.


Well then quit beating around the bush and say what you mean. How are the actions of a Christian, UK-born citizen relevant to the Muslim refugees who were being harassed and abused by British race rioters?


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Would you please stop? This flamewar is not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


sure dang, I'm the bad guy now :D


So your point is that the rioters aren't misled or ignorant, they're knowingly and voluntarily committing acts of violence & thuggery in the streets against innocent people on purpose? Not exactly a sympathetic bunch if so. ;)


so it's always been about misinformed white people violently rioting in protest of a perceived invasion by non-whites? we know.

those people who are rioting and think they're being invaded - what are their thoughts on europe's colonial history?


That doesn't make him a Muslim.


Unfortunately there is no such barrier to my life being impacted by the people who are swayed by this dross, so I can't afford to switch off from it.


50 years of many individual short sighted knee jerk reactions.


It's wildly overpriced and never formed a huge part of Germany's electricity mix anyway.

Given the extortionate cost of building and maintenance and nonzero risks, its only really "benefit" is for the military industrial complex to keep a ready supply of nuclear skills and supply chains.

It's the latter that formed the basis of the American led PR campaign to shame Germany. Pioneering a low carbon zero nuclear generation mix was threatening to established nuclear. It had fuck all to do with the environment. None of them ever gave two shits about Poland's chronic coal addiction next door.


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