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I always wondered why /r/thenetherlands was so left and (very?) progressive and I never saw any comments giving counter weight. But now I know the mods are so quick to shadowban I am not sure I should even bother with the subreddit anymore, it's mostly bullshit anyway.


I didn't know either. I just thought it was because reddit in general is quite left leaning. But the post above triggered me. I just thought I was the unlucky target of a mod with a bad day. But that doesn't seem to be the case.


On your second point: The paper shows, when comparing recovered to recovered with single dose, that there are about half as many re-infections. And yes we're talking about 0.3% vs 0.15% reinfection (that's why there is not enough power for significance), but halving the chances may still be important. I'm opposed to compulsory vaccination either way though.


Maybe it is normal? (in the U.S.). Wouldn't that be more insane?


What am I supposed to see? All engines give the same or very similar results for me


At least for me I saw that the search results for google were similar to brave while those for duckduckgo were similar to those from bing.


The detractor below apparently fails to understand that searching for controversial topics is a great way to see which search engines are similar, or relying on the results from other engines.


This is a great idea. I also tested this out with "Alex Jones", some engines show articles criticizing him above his own website.


Probably some conspiracy nonsense.


I'm not sure why you think it's relevant to make such a remark without a shred of evidence regarding my thoughts.

I left it for the readers to form their own opinion. Something you apparently are loath to do.


Yes, I say what I mean. I don't hide behind the "I'm just asking questions" facade.


S/he literally didn't ask any questions though. Sounds like you have a lot of baggage and you're throwing it around here.


It is possible the spike proteins mutate too much and we need a booster


This should be relatively easy to verify, we have millions of people who have been infected early last year so we can see how many of them got reinfected recently with one of the more recent strains.

If the immune response of the virus is close enough to what a vaccine gives and the mutation rate remains relatively constant, the number of reinfections would probably be a good indication of how much would we need subsequent shots, at least for a yearly renewal cycle.

I wonder, are there any such studies?


Is that still a booster at that point?


That'd be no (for natural immunity). Even SARS-1 survivors have immunity to COVID, all these years later.

Maybe for the synthetic immunity (who knows).

But in any case, SARS-1 and covid are about 80% similar. The "variants" of different covids are about 99.7% similar. Draw your own conclusions.


Seconding the request for a source. The papers I've found say that SARS-1 survivors have antibodies that react to SARS-CoV-2 but don't neutralize the virus, and thus may not provide immunity.

So far the mRNA vaccines have shown strong effectiveness against the variants, but the others like AZ and the Chinese/Russian vaccines much less so. It's also worth noting that natural immunity is a somewhat random process (more random than the antibodies produced with vaccines) and not everyone develops the same level of protection.


Do you have a source for your claim? Can't find anything about SARS, covid transimmunity.


Here's something [0]:

> Next, we showed that patients (n = 23) who recovered from SARS (the disease associated with SARS-CoV infection) possess long-lasting memory T cells that are reactive to the N protein of SARS-CoV 17 years after the outbreak of SARS in 2003; these T cells displayed robust cross-reactivity to the N protein of SARS-CoV-2.

[0] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32668444/


Thank you, seems to support OP's statement. Given that COVID antibody tests also show cross-reactivity with SARS it seems likely to me he is in fact correct.


I did not know that, honestly quite surprised! One thing to keep in consideration is that there is a very big evolutionary pressure for covid to get a mutation that bypasses the vaccine antibodies and still infect others, given that there are so many active infections still out there. I now have good hope though!


You didn't know that, because it's most likely BS.

BTW people and chimpanzees share 99% of their DNA. We're basically the same, aren't we. /s

80% is not close at all, and 99.7% still can render a vaccine ineffective, of course the specifics matter.


To be fair humans are almost identical to chimpanzees biologically in many ways. As long as the spike proteins tertiary structure has not changed to much from SARS to COVID, op could be correct. Emphasis on could.


Emphasis affirmed.


I feel like talking about genes in % similarity seems to be useless.


That was the point I was trying to drive home, more or less.


What is the reason you don't want a vaccine? I'm honestly just curious


There is a torrent you can download, I used jackett to find it


Thanks to your comment I installed jackett! Pretty interesting. I only use private trackers, can you recommend a public one to add to search for this?


I just added all public trackers


Madlad. Thanks I'll give it a go.


I don't my ISP would care if I show them a graph that my service is bad.


It worked very well for me.

My ISP in Germany was lending cables from another ISP. They failed to fulfill the "up to 100 MBit/s" claim all the time.

So I set up a Raspberry Pi (which is a bit flawed, as the network interface on the older models was too slow, to begin with) and let it run speedtests every 5 minutes for four weeks.

The graph looked terribly enough that I was allowed to change ISPs without any cancellation period or something else.

Sometimes they care, probably because I blogged and tweeted about it, too.


I gets very confused by marketing terms. But doesn't giving you only 1MBit/s during the whole day counts in "up to 100Mbit/s"? I'm trying to understand the legal merits in a case like this.


Marketing-wise that's true (and probably also from a legal point of view). But they were constantly delivering 25 MBit/s or less, even through the night. That's pretty bad for a large german city.

Not sure if you couldn't "sue" them or whatnot for not fulfilling their part of the contract. I was fine with being able to change, that's where my journey ended.

Point for me was: It's a good idea to collect "evidence" and it sometimes helps to have numbers at hand.


Yes, netzpolitik.org has some info [0], I'll give you a deepl translation of the section:

In the future, performance not in compliance with the contract will be deemed to have occurred if

- 90 percent of the contractually agreed maximum speed is not achieved at least once on each of at least two measurement days, or

- the normally available speed is not achieved in 90 percent of the measurements, or

- the contractually agreed minimum speed is not reached on at least two measurement days respectively.

To be recognized as valid, users must also perform at least 20 measurements on two different days and have their computer connected to the Internet via LAN.

[0]: https://netzpolitik.org/2017/weise-deinem-netzanbieter-nach-...


In my case as well this is true. ISPs ( especially when they have monopolies) don't care about this. I live in a town with 8K people and the whole town is sharing an uplink of 300Mbit/s. And we complained a lot but due to how only one single ( governmental) provider have the rights to install cable internet, we're stuck with what we have.


All major UK ISPs abide to Ofcom's Code of Practice which means you have the right to get out of the contract with no consequences if they fail to reach their minimum advertised speed. This feels like a bit of a raw deal, since they get to keep the months payment for a service they failed to provide, but it's better than nothing.


Unfortunately it didn't work for this guy either

https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/43fi39/i_set_up...


I've actually had pretty good luck with pingplotter's sidekick + mediacom twitter support. The phone people would not give me the time of day, however.


Please note this language change is only for the US


Considering how aggressively the US is exporting its culture: forget it.


Adding nationalistic flamewar to the race flamewar you've already been fomenting is seriously not ok. Please stop posting flamebait to HN.


I guess that's true, but I must say that in my direct vicinity there is a lot of anti-US sentiment, especially on their politics and culture "indoctrination" of other west countries. I'm a student in the NL


I'm from (east) Germany and over here it's kinda mixed. Most people have a sort of passive acceptance for american cultural imports, but many also dislike large parts of it.


As an American, I hope more people see us as a warning, rather than something to aspire to.

I can't even watch Shark Tank anymore (was a guilty pleasure), because I'm tired of hearing about 'the american dream'.


Hey I am in my masters of bioinformatics in the Netherlands and was wondering what kinds of salaries you are seeing for metabolic engineering and related fields. In my uni things like salaries rarely get discussed but I think it's quite important.


Are you interested in salary ranges in the US and/or NL?


Mostly the NL since I don't plan on moving to the US.


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