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That's only really an issue for specific games.


But what problem is there with it? Most of the important questions have been answered already.


Is darksouls.wikidot.com not the initial Dark Souls wikidot page? Was there something else that was closed down?


The 60s-era designs don't look all that different from some of the fairly popular current Warby Parker designs.


I bought a pair of glasses last week that look exactly like the 60's photo, but with a brown frame. Wasn't familiar with GI Glasses before, I just think that design looks cool.


That's not really how it works. You don't have to be a producer of something to be critical of something.


Not mine.


OpenAI, Nvidia, and friends have been leaders in pushing compensation packages past $1m/yr. This uplift will trickle down into tech roles in any workplace.


the largest share holder of NVIDIA is fidelity retirement fund I think?


delusional to think it isn't


not everyone works on ai or ai adjacent products, or even tech on this site


Do you have a 401k or any kind of ETF investment? It’s highly unlikely you have zero investment in NVIDIA.


Most people in the world are not American. We have differing retirement plans and invest in local markets, or all sorts of international markets. The NASDAQ is one of many.

Most people reading this will indeed have zero investment in Nvidia.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_major_stock_exchanges

"One of many"... Nasdaq & Nyse have capitalization equivalent to pretty much the rest of the world.

Most people reading this, if they have any money in any stock exchange, they are directly or indirectly exposed to Nvidia, whether they like it or not.


Absolutely, but capitalisation does not necessarily reflect the quantity of individual investors.

If you're talking about the indirect impact of foreign stock markets on a local markets... Sure, I guess. But that's hardly in the spirit here. Any large company in many countries has an impact on markets local markets when they sway, but rarely in any significant way.

The majority of people on HN are not impacted in any meaningful way by Nvidia's stock price and have no direct (brokerage, retirement fund, etc) investment in them.

The assessments in further up comments that give context here are that we all either invest in Nvida unknowingly or have our employment/compensation tied to them. I highly doubt this is true for the majority of HN users.


But what's your argument ?

Unless I'm missing something, most of HN audience is working in a tech related field, isn't it ?


Nvidia is buyable by many international retirement plans, and/or affects international companies. It’s really hard to not be invested indirectly in them right now, even internationally unless your country has restrictions


tech is a large component of the overall economy though, so like it or not, we're all attached to this. I'm not a banker investing into mortgage-backed-securities either, but the 2008 GFC still affected me.


You've moved the goalposts. GP specifically said "directly tied to". You're discussing indirect investments/earnings/impact.


That’s an extremely shortsighted and narrow view of things


it really doesn’t matter, if nvidia pops hard it would almost certainly take the rest of the market with it, just on the basis of that being such a bearish leading signal on the market enthusiasm for AI. Nvidia popping would mean the AI party is over and a gut blow to the tech market as a whole.

this isn’t to say a down quarter that’s 25% down or whatever would be fatal. Obviously it’s going to have to correct a little at some point etc. Or if everyone else is obviously doing fine and it’s some nvidia-specific thing. But if Jensen got on the phone and said they were down 75% in next quarter orders on the basis of secular market trends and expected further cancellations, the tech market as a whole would probably crumple.

Most of the gpus nvidia sells aren’t DGX, they’re going into dell or HP or supermicro servers. Even the ones that aren’t officially partnered benefit from this ecosystem momentum etc. AI buildout has sold a lot of computers, a lot of memory, a lot of racks and networking and optics and electrical, etc.

As what is still functionally the only company making money on gpgpu sales right now, and with them functionally being near-100% datacenter and related (automotive etc) they are a massive leading signal on where the market is headed. The next best one is like… powercolor (TUL Corp).

(and nvidia conveniently does break it out anyway, but a lot of companies like AMD tend to submerge it in another group to deliberately make the revenue difficult to break out.)


It's called 2nd / 3rd order effects.

The entire Tech sector was propped up Nvidia and GenAI since Nov 2022.

The bloodbath that would have ensued in the Tech sector (depressing salary and accelerating layoffs) would have been unfathomable.

If you think the $4 Trillion created in the Tech sector since Nov 2022 didn't affect non-AI people positively, you are naive about how the economy works


The word "directly" is usually used to refer to first-order effects. 2nd and 3rd order effects are (by definition) indirect.


I think the naivity may be thinking the primary demographics of HN users are American.

It's been shown multiple times[0][1] that the majority of HN users are not American, certainly not 100% (as you assessed further up). It would also be reasonable to assume that not all American HN users work in a graphics card relevant space, or even tech.

1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35567986

2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30210378


I mean, they "make" both. "Make" does not imply profit. If you say a company "made" a revenue figure, then you mean it in the revenue sense. It's contextual.


That’s like saying a trading company made a trillion dollars because you counted all of the securities sales but not the costs.


No, it’s not contextual. “Company X made $N billion dollars” only means one thing, net income.


100% contextual. In every business where I've been an executive, or had access to the budget, we talk "made" as gross revenue and EBIDA as a stand in gross profit and specifically call out net profit in internal meetings. For example, "We made 10 million with an EBIDA of 1 million and net of 200,000.00." Using EBIDA to talk to potential investors and as a guiding metric if we didn't have a well established gross profit formula that followed GAAP.


Sorry bro it's contextual.


As a player, I do not really value performance unless we're talking sub 25fps.


Performance is not just a simple number. 25 FPS with good frame pacing is much more enjoyable than something that averages 60 FPS but with individual frame times all over the place. That said, for first-person action games especially on a non-tiny monitor, anything below ~40 FPS will be noticeably non-smooth. Other game types have more tolerance, e.g. a top down strategy game could still be playable at ~15 FPS.


Same. But some titles have like 3fps (Train Valley World for example)


Also huge in size compared to the screen dimensions. Could barely get my hands around it as a little kid.

Then the Nomad was even bigger!


I remember thinking the commercials made it look cool when I was 4 or 5 (I vividly remember some sort of surfing game), but then I never encountered a single person who owned one. Same with the TurboGrafx-16.


"Some sort of surfing game" immediately screams California Games¹ to me. There was surfing² plus a few other sports, and it is still good fun if you find yourself at a museum/nerd house that has one.

¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Games

² https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql2S-wXa-H8


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