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Twitter is really not far from 4chan in 2025.

Always has been. A lot of prominent Twitter accounts in my primary language, especially the old ones, has telltales of having been on 2chan. net. There must be something to that format that installs a basic social media amplification skill in your brain that do not develop otherwise.

There are places more toxic than 4chan but skill levels don't compare, and 4chan and 2chan also share nothing culture wise, so it must be in the architecture.


My guess would be that to be on 2chan/4chan "back in the day", you need to be terminally online. And being terminally online is a soft prerequisite to being really good at posting interesting things online. Excellence isn't an act - it's a habit.

There was also 2ch. net that was a lot bigger, but 2ch "alumni" aren't as good. It's not just cohort, it has/had better action-reward loop than other systems.

Its the fleetingness as a filter. If you are not catchy and repeated by others- its gone. instantly. No coming back.

That's understating it. They're practically the same at this point, 4chan just has fewer bots.

4chan doesn't manipulate the feed, so far as I know. Nor does it require a phone number to use.

It blocks mainstream vpns, but that's about it. Behind the scenes, who knows, but it's not as obviously full of low effort bait as Twitter, and no account is necessary.


Chromium is the only browser that has extensive undetectable/automation support. Look at patchright: https://github.com/Kaliiiiiiiiii-Vinyzu/patchright?tab=readm...

Then people complain that Google is taking over the Web, well don't help them in the process.

Guess how IE became what it was before the lawsuit, it was the cool browser when all nice developer features came first.

Dynamic HTML, HTML Applications, CSS shaders (backed by DirectX), VS debugging integration (via Frontpage)...

Apparently a lesson gone after one generation.


I think blaming people who are trying to make a buck using the fastest route is not the way to achieve non-monopoly.

A practical point: Mozilla made design choices in the past that made it harder to hide the automation footprint. For some time it was more difficult to disable the navigator.webdriver flag in Firefox compared to Chromium.


That's why we support Brave, Edge, Ungoogled-Chromium, and our own custom Chromium fork that we're working on.

Just because we only support Chromium doesn't mean we're pro-Google-dominance.

There are enough Chrome forks at this point that Google no longer has the power to unilaterally remove features from Chromium. Manifest v2 extensions still work great in Brave for example.


That's not really true, https://github.com/daijro/camoufox is at parity with patchright on stealth, it's just that Firefox has way less market share so it's not worth the >2x maintanance effort for us to support multiple browsers.

oh yeah I love your project. I just mentioned patchright cause it's more universal - a drop-in for playwright and also used by browser-use

pydoll is also a fantastic project, but, again, chromium: https://github.com/autoscrape-labs/pydoll


That's true. Sequoia is often a death sentence for power users. And a huge gamble for the founders

"all digital content to be worth zero."

People are making millions/year just by writing articles on Substack. Just look at the "paid leaderboards", number of paid subscribers, and multiply by 70% of the annual price of the newsletter.

Our newsletter is doing mid-6-figures. You simply can't find that content anywhere else, and I am not aware of a newsletter-piracy phenomenon. Even if it existed, I think many people would pay to have guaranteed day-1 access.


When I say "all" and "zero" it's obviously tongue-in-cheek, not a scientific assessment that is to be taken literally. Of course there's exceptions.

These are not exceptions, but a whole industry built around the notion that digital content is worth "something"

I would say that the average Hacker News user is negatively biased against LLMs and does not use coding agents to their benefit. At least what I can tell from the highly upvoted articles and comments.

it's all gonna get leaked every quarter

hey, let he who wasn't there cast the first stone! /s

Btw, you can buy a MacBook Pro Max M1 16" 64GB SoC RAM, 1TB SSD in excellent condition, with warranty, refurbished by Amazon with a brand new battery for $1,500 right now.

Corporations are switching laptops on a 3-year cycle.

Next year, there will be a flood of M2s, in 2 years, M3s, 3 years, M4s, nada, nada.


I think this might give Google some ideas...

The thing is... do we really need so many developers and marketers?

I read it as a more general statement, not just tech workers.

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