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So it just goes to show that google acted in bad faith all along

damned if they do, damned if they dont.

You mean damned if they do but allow their own applications the unrestricted access, and damned if they later change their mind without stating any reason or change of policy due to public outcry but still hamstringing other applications that serve a similar purpose that can't get the same level of media coverage?

I mean, yes? This is exactly what happens when you put yourself in the position of a censor, especially as people's reliance on you grows and grows. It is fundamentally impossible to please everyone.

At this point, Trump's and Putin's views very much align. So it makes sense they want to attack the same targets.


Ladybird (http://ladybird.org) is set to have an alpha version, sometime next year.

The project can be supported here: https://donorbox.org/ladybird


>Zuckerberg: They "trust me"

>Zuckerberg: Dumb fucks

How can you say they're not focused on users?


Diplomats have a diplomatic passport. Or they can have a "laissez-passer" instead.

They are asked to have the visa linked (and attached) to their diplomatic document, instead of their personal passport.


Apparently, for insider trading


For encrypted mail, there is also tuta.com (previously Tutanota), Germany based


Tuta comes with a caveat - you cannot use it in any other mail client (I think there are similar limitations with Proton as well).

Anyone looking for alternatives - stay away from mailboxo.org. It's a pathetic service. Stuck in past (they have a suite that makes you kick a table leg), very disgustingly bad customer service (it's almost non existent), and yeah they use 2FA inside the password.

Tuta is many times better if you can live with not being able to use another client. (They have pretty decent apps on all platforms though)


Do you know anything about another popular German mail provider, mailbox.org?


mailbox.org were good, but they decided to become more than just a mail provider and forced users into other, more expensive plans, adding office and cloud storage.

There is also posteo.de. It doesn't support custom domains, but I use it in combination with simplelogin.io (I think French, but now owned by Proton).


Yeah, I appreciate posteo's stance but when I tried using my domain via forwarding service it was a pain.

SimpleLogin, by the way, is now owned by Proton which is run by a founder (CEO?) who is a vocal Trump supporter. Nothing wrong with that of course, just saying.


I have commented just above it. tl;dr - I'd avoid it like plague at this point.



Might have niche-applications, but a nuclear-powered container ship can do many more trips in the time it takes this to do 1 trip.


We’ve come full circle.


Would you protect your family? Would you protect your friends?

Do they count on your protection and support (or you,on theirs)?

Do you tell them to just stop begging for your help and protection and ask what have they actually done for you?


Friends don't use friends websites ?

USA isn't boycotting ikea or spotify afaik.


You'd lose out on headaches from your customer not paying and having to waste resources following up on it.

If they can pay, then just pay for the service they got.

Seems pretty straightforward.


Yeah, but you also lose all the income from that customer to save a few bucks for sending an extra invoice…? The customers who pay a little late have never been a noticeable cost for us.

The ones that contact support for every little thing or those that have a million strange feature requests on the other hand.


> lose all the income from that customer to save a few bucks for sending an extra invoice…?

Maybe they sent all the extra invoices? It sounds like you are assuming discontinuing the service was the first and only thing they tried.


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