Presuming its a modern car (and if we are talking about keyless entry/start we are), well then you just plug an "Emergency Start Device" into the OBD port or to the BCM module, and drive away. Heck a lot of these "Emergency Start Devices" can also unlock the car, but often involve pulling panels/lights from the car to get to the can bus to run the attack.
So that attack when done on its own is mainly left to stealing cars off drives at night rather than say from a supermarkets car park during the day.
With practice raking doesn't take that much time and "usually" comes with the benefit of not tripping the alarm that the door was opened (because the car "thinks" the door has just been unlocked with a key).
<EDIT> Seems HN has different experiences with their cars then my own, So I'll concede the idea that the alarm doesn't trip when using the key. It seems the cars I've had in the past are the exception to the rule. </EDIT>
The thing is, in the real world, no one really looks twice when someone gets into a car unless they are using obvious brute force to get into the car.
My 2001 seqouia's battery recently died. I unlocked the car with the key and when I hooked up the jumper cables the alarm went off until I turned the ignition to on. I was surprised it was that good
I had a non electronic key cut for my Jeep so I could zip tie it under the frame for emergency use. It will not start the engine, but does open the door locks. When I open the doors with it, the alarm goes off.
I think that mechanical key behaviour depends on the car. I'm pretty sure my BMW sets off the alarm if I use the mechanical backup key, but it turns off when I put the key in the ignition slot.
Yeah, I think it is car dependant. But the car I use (gave up my own car, but the family has a shared "work horse" car we are all insured on.) is a 10 year old UK Ford fiesta and that car doesn't trip the alarm if the door is unlocked with the key, and its not the transponder in the key, cause one of the keys to that car doesn't have a transponder and the keys get mixed up from time to time (So you only know you have picked up the wrong key only when you insert the key into the ignition and the immobilizer light is a solid red light - 3 keys, one with a fob, 2 without a fob, one of which has a failed transponder chip in it, these two keys look the same and not one of us has been arsed enough to take both keys to the car, figure out which doesn't work and label it :-P).
(One day, when I can be arsed, I'll rekey the car and reprogram it with fresh transponders, but today is not that day!)
Put a piece of tape or some paint on the handle part of the no-transponder key so you don't mix it up any more. Less effort than the "full-arse" solution.
We keep saying we are going to do something like that, but we keep forgetting because we normally in "Go do task" mode when we grab the keys. Its not too much of an issue because we will normally grab the fob key, it only becomes and issue when one of us forget to put the fob key back when being done with the car.
But "reprogramming" a key (more like adding a key) on that model of ford just involves doing a dance with the fob key then inserting the key with the new transponder. So we plan to get all keys working on the car at some point. I was just going to order a new chip but my bother was complaining about the key barrel being a bit loose on him so just doing to replace everything at some point. Its just more about not being lazy about it :-P
Thing is, its what we call "the work horse" car of the family, it gets used about once a week to do tasks no one wants to do in their own cars (or when I need to do something in a car), so its not really a high priority thing to fix, but if we are going fix it might as well do it "right")
Fine. We will collect all the customer - server interaction to build training data for vision language action models, so we can replace waitstaff with robots, disrupting the lower middle class and college students!
We won't stop there - we will rehire all those disrupted workers but only on a gig basis! Now you can work when you want, with as little health insurance as you can afford!
The apps will of course show ads to the customer while they are waiting for the bill. The app may delay sending the signal sometimes to ensure full ad time.
sounds like perfect grounds for a chargeback to me. Company offered a full refund via one of its Agents, company then refused to honour that offer, time to make your bank force them to refund you.
Just because you use AI for customer service doesn't mean you don't have to honour its offers to customers. Air Canada recently lost a case where its AI offered a discount to a customer but then refused to offer it "IRL"
As mush as I enjoy shitting on Adobe, I also want to encourage companies to embrace platforms other than Twitter. Simply because at times it's the best way to get customer service these days.
I think I would have had more respect for Adobe if they had left the posts up.
> But it can't be done en-masse, against every citizen.
I took that to be in reference to using "shoe leather" to conduct surveillance / investigations rather than today's ability to "simply" query a database for such information.
For example, back in the day (get off my lawn) if a crime happened in say a park in the middle of the night, then police would have to conduct door to door questioning to see who saw what and who in the area around the time, this required boots on the ground eating up man hours, something that doesn't scale up.
These days they can ask Google for a list of all the phones in the area at the time and will either have names/addresses tied to the Google accounts associated with that data or have enough data to then query the cell operators for that information.
The problem is that the cats out of the bag when it comes to encryption.
Let’s just say we can wave a magic wand and make every phone manufacturer include a way that allows only lawful decryption with court orders and the like.
What stops the criminals spinning up their own service that doesn’t? Sure you could make such services illegal, but when has something being illegal stopped criminals from doing it?
All backdoors do is weaken security for everyone else while those who really want secure communications/ storage for their ill gotten gains will still find a way.
Refusing to decrypt is already a crime in the UK (iirc up to 2 years, 5 if the underlying suspicion is terror related).
Fighting encryption in my opinion is like treating the symptoms not the root cause of the problem.
It's made me reconsider visiting. ATM, if I do go, I'll most likely go via Ireland where most of the border checks are done before getting on the plane rather than when getting to the states.
However, the article you linked to states its not an offical travel warning, more like an advisory.
> But they also stressed that this change does not count as an official travel warning
The Ireland tip is a great shout. My brother-in-law holds passports for the UK and another country that is not on the USA's christmas card list, he does all his US business flying via Ireland.
So that attack when done on its own is mainly left to stealing cars off drives at night rather than say from a supermarkets car park during the day.
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