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literally in quote that I gave you, Erdogan claimed that Jerusalem in Turkish. He been entertaining idea of rebuilding Ottoman empire, as of recent.

Most of the western countries for example, those that recognized "palestinian state", don't recognize it in any specific borders. Recognizing it without any borders means that they don't recognize that east jerusalem belongs to it.

I never denied palestinians of their identity. I presented you with palestinians denying palestinian identity.

and btw,

Iran - Pakistan relations are so good that they exchange missile strikes in 2024

Iran - Afghanistan relations are so good that they had border clashes in 2023

Iran - Iraq relations are so good that Iran actively destabilizing Iraq and supports various militias there

Iran - Azerbaijan relations are, to say the least, strained. And Azerbaijan is famously used as Israeli base for spying on Iran.



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denying existence of palestinian state is not racist. because it never existed, it doesn't exist now and whatever exist as result of Oslo agreement doesn't meet definition of state.

in previous conversation i said that I don't care how they self identify. for all i care they can identify as Atlanteans.

On the other side, you been denying palestinians their self identification. this is racist. i gave you two example of prominent palestinians who fought for independence and you brushed them off as misguided. this is literally marginalizing self identity of the people that you claim to be ally of.

as example, among those of them who live in Israel (and I think you wouldn't argue with fact that they are same ethnic group) 30% to 60% (depends on survey) self identify as arabs

among those who live in west bank/gaza, some identify as palestinians, some as arabs, some as muslims, some as palestinian arabs and some identify mostly with a their clan or hamula (as Mosab Hassan Yousef whom you dismissed claim). and some as all of those things at same time.

are they all wrong and you right ?

there is a bunch of papers "out there" about evolution of palestinian identity. i'll suggest you to read them instead of harassing a bunch of people here and claiming that they are racists.


I tried engaging this guy a few days ago, he’s very single minded in his opinions. He’s not interested in reason, only in hating a certain group of people who originate from a particular region in the Middle East. It’s good to see others are trying but you’re just gonna end up frustrated as he ties himself in knots to paint you as bigot while displaying many of those same traits.




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